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Strat wiring - Can this be done?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by gmm52, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. gmm52

    gmm52 Tele-Meister

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    I spend the vast majority of time on the neck pickup, and occasionally go to neck/middle. I'm thinking I'd like to have the option of using mostly neck, with a bit of neck/middle dialed in, to cut some noise and scoop mids. Is it possible to wire a Strat such that one can blend neck and middle in any proportion one desires?
     

  2. gmm52

    gmm52 Tele-Meister

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    Sep 23, 2016
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    As usual, some quick internet searching after I ask the question shows it can be done, so perhaps my real question is, what is the easiest and least invasive way to be able to blend neck and middle?
     

  3. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member


  4. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    K.I.S.S. :D

    Or do this, just take the wire from the MIDDLE blender pot terminal, and and put it with the "middle hot" terminal on the switch. In other words, drop it down one from the diagram. Use the same (tone pot) bottom pot you have there for the blender, assume 250KΩ audio (what's stock/standard).


    blender pot.jpg
     
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  5. moosie

    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Here's a diagram of that second idea.


    Screen Shot 2018-02-18 at 1.25.25 PM.png



    If you like the first idea, it's also possible to make that a 4-way, adding Neck/Bridge in series (and you can blend Middle into that as well).
     
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  6. warrent

    warrent Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Sep 15, 2009
    toronto
    you can also wire your strat like a tele either three way or four way and wire the middle to the bottom tone as a volume pot. Wire the volumes as in the pic below. Then you can turn up the neck or middle as much as you want in relation to each other.

    1240_2133_2.gif
     

  7. Mistercharlie

    Mistercharlie Tele-Holic

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    Apr 28, 2015
    Germany
    I’m planning to put a push-push pot in place of the second tone, and using the switch to add the bridge to the neck so I can get the Tele sound. I will use the pot as a bass cut, like Reverend’s bass contour.
     

  8. Manolete

    Manolete Friend of Leo's

    Feb 19, 2011
    Here
    A graceful solution would be to replace the 5-way switch with a 3-way switch.
    • Wire this as a Telecaster, with only the neck and bridge pickup connected to it. Run the output of the switch to one volume control.
    • Run the middle pickup directly to a second volume control (deleting one tone control).
    • Wire the two volumes and (now master) tone as a Jazz Bass. This allows you to adjust the volume of both the neck pickup and middle pickup independently.

    This also allows you to have all 3 pickups on at the same time, as well as just the outer pickups. It also lets you adjust, say, 80% middle pickup and 50% neck pickup, and you can endlessly adjust the volume of each like you can a Les Paul.
     
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  9. schmee

    schmee Friend of Leo's

    Jun 2, 2003
    northwest
    My problem with the blend pot is it effects the signal. Bottom line was I didnt like it.
     
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  10. awasson

    awasson Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    I like this solution. Simple to do and simple to operate. I don’t see a downside.
     

  11. moosie

    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    To be clear, this is the same thing @warrent described the day before.
     

  12. awasson

    awasson Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    Excellent. The motion was made be @warrent and seconded by @Manolete. All those in favour?

    Sorry, it’s been a long day. I’ll see myself out :confused:
     
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  13. gmm52

    gmm52 Tele-Meister

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    Southern Ontario
    Would you happen to have a schematic, or does this wiring have a name so I could search for one? It sounds intriguing, but I'd be hard pressed to execute the wiring without a diagram.
     

  14. awasson

    awasson Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    See Post #6 for the schematic.

    http://www.tdpri.com/threads/strat-wiring-can-this-be-done.806021/#post-8185042

    EDIT: Nevermind... That's not particularly well illustrated. If I find something useful, I will return with it.
     
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  15. jvin248

    jvin248 Poster Extraordinaire

    Apr 18, 2014
    Near Detroit, MI
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    My player Strats I wire the second tone pot as a Blender that converts the 5-way from SSS thickening up to full HSH operation. Only a wiring change. If you spend more time on the HSH end you may want 500k pots. Hot humbuckers ~13kohms output from run of the mill Strat coils. A couple of out-of-phase tones that may fit your desire for the Reverend circuit. If you like the Reverend circuit, try out the Arlo Cocked Wah mod sometime.

    Schematic and magazine article
    Build walk through video


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  16. moosie

    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    This should do it.

    Screen Shot 2018-02-20 at 8.07.23 PM.png
     
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  17. Asmith

    Asmith Friend of Leo's

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    Nov 27, 2014
    Morley, England
    I would buy a dual gang blend pot and a 3 way switch and do the following, Master volume, Master tone, Blend (neck to middle pickup). I'd wire the 3 way switch so you have,

    1) neck + middle (blend)
    2) neck + middle (blend) + bridge
    3) bridge

    you can get all 7 parallel pickup combinations and plus your blend options as requested. Personally I think one knob for blending pickups is easier than 2, this type of blend control is a common mod to Jazz basses rather than 2 separate volumes.

    I can throw a diagram together if you're interested?
     

  18. 24 track

    24 track Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Nov 6, 2014
    kamloops bc
    I did this mod to my strats
    A) I istalled a 3 position switch 1) Neck 2) Neck / Bridge 3) bridge
    B) I removed the Middle tone control and made it a volume pot for the middle pickup
    C) I removed the tone control and replaced it with a TBX

    this allowed me to BLEND the middle pick up in any configuration

    wiring 1.jpg
     

  19. Andy B

    Andy B Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Mar 16, 2003
    Colorado
    The way around this is to use a no load pot for the blend pot.
     
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  20. gmm52

    gmm52 Tele-Meister

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    Sep 23, 2016
    Southern Ontario
    Thanks to everyone for diagrams and info. Will spend some time studying and planning my modification. One more question though. In my mind, the humbucking effect of bridge/middle is variable over a range, and can gradually introduced, if one is able to dial in any amount of middle with neck. In other words, one can reduce hum a bit with dialing in say 25% middle pickup, or a bit more, until both pickups are at unity, with full humbucking then coming into play. Is this a correct assumption?
     

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