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"Stock from the factory" 1952 telecaster question

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by steam-powered, May 29, 2017.

  1. steam-powered

    steam-powered Tele-Meister

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    Jan 6, 2013
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    Not too many years ago I read somewhere that, were one to walk into a local shop and buy a tele in 1952, it would have come from the factory with flatwound strings. I know that flatwounds were used by Luther Perkins but haven't been able to confirm (from an authoritative source) that Fender actually sent them from the factory with flatwound strings.

    Anybody remember what came on your telecaster back in the early 50's?
     
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  2. RodeoTex

    RodeoTex Poster Extraordinaire

    Sep 14, 2005
    Nueces Strip
    I've read that too, and probably a pretty heavy gauge.
     
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  3. steam-powered

    steam-powered Tele-Meister

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    Bump in hopes of more responses.
     

  4. Antoon

    Antoon Tele-Holic

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    I believe both types of string were available at that time but flatwounds were the norm on electrics if you look at the way saddles are intonated on preset bridges from that era.
     

  5. Bob M

    Bob M Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

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    In the old days flatwounds were on everything. They were quiet and many guys were into the Chet thing. Once James Burton and Rockabilly kicked in it became a different story.
     

  6. unseen hand

    unseen hand Tele-Meister

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    Aug 30, 2014
    Phoenix, Az
    Not sure but I love the sound of flats on my teles, way more articulate on the lower strings.
     
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  7. Bill

    Bill Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Mar 16, 2003
    London
    And a wound G string, which is why the pole pieces are set up that way.
     
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  8. Jimmy Owen

    Jimmy Owen Tele-Meister

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    Yes. Most folks forget that detail. It's why wraparound bridges on older gibsons are a bit off--they are compensated for a wound G.
     

  9. RichardL

    RichardL Tele-Holic

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    Mar 16, 2003
    Anaheim Hills, CA
    Pretty sure all Fenders shipped with flatwounds at least until the early 70's
     

  10. Wally

    Wally Telefied Ad Free Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Lubbock, TX
    +1 on the wound G observation. That is that is why a vintage staggered Strat pickup for example does not work well with a plain G string. That Plain G is much hotter magnetically than is the wound G. This is why I like adjustable polepiece pickups and also why I adjust the poles in those pickups that are supposedly non-adjustable. I first read of this in GP 43 years ago before I had gotten to understand it first hand. Those vintage staggers are perfect for the strings for which they were designed....wound G. And yet, pickup builders are still building vintage staggers for a market that is almost entirely plain G players. ???? Fwiw, the best modern Fender Strat pickup for my ears has poles that sit uniformly about 3/32" above the top of the bobbin. They are Alnico II pickups, and I adjust 5 poles per pickup to get a proper sound out of them....fantastic pickups once adjusted.
    Re: Gibson wrap-around bridges or any bridge that puts the strings on a straight angle to the line of the strings. These bridges and saddles will not properly intonate a guitar no matter what third string one uses. That is why in the '60's Gibson started using a compensated bridge for those lower line guitars....compensated for a wound G. These are called 'lightning bolt' bridges by some, iirc. The modern Gibsons that use a similar bridge have a compensation scheme for a plain G set of strings.
     

  11. musicalmartin

    musicalmartin Poster Extraordinaire

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    In the late 50's -60's I always used flat wound strings with a wound G .everyone did .I only came across wire would when I went acoustic .I used Epiphone heavies 13 +.No wonder my small hands had trouble playing .It was only in about 1982 Iwhen I restarted playing after a long gap that I bought a guitar with 9's on it .A Squier JV .much easier to play .I wasted years on thick strings and thick wide useless necks .
     

  12. Twisted Kerle

    Twisted Kerle Tele-Meister

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    Feb 2, 2016
    Alaska
    Gpa used flat wound strings with the Nocaster. Black diamond strings usually. He said they had less background noise when playing. Now I know why... Thanks!
     
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