so, this is real music, right?

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  1. thunderbyrd

    thunderbyrd Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

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    if you are so inclined, please check out this very pleasant sounding jazz backing track:


    ok. so that guy plays those four chords - and it sounds really good. he should be able to sell a couple dozen, or more, Sea Breezes and Sex on the Beaches at any fern bar in this world. I could probably listen to him clank along all night.

    but how come I take those four chords and plunk along at them and they sound dead as sand.
     
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    answer: maybe because it's not you

    not everything is moving to you

    it's ok: some stuff just feels robotic and artificial

    but if you want to play wallpaper (however intricate), that's another story
     
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    Nd, I know what you mean by "wallpaper". but what he is playing sounds nice to listen to. I would like to play this well, call it wallpaper or whatever. hopefully, I could build on it. but you have got to sound decent to start with, to reach up higher. I think.
     
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    Well, I don't know where you are at...but to my ear that guy is very very good. Nice chord stabs, some classic jazz licks, a nice fire-y gee-whiz flurry of notes, all wrapped up with a nice tone. I would like to sound like that, even if I could only pull it off for a couple of choruses.

    Maybe if I buy some more pedals...
     
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    Are you just playing the same chord forms repeatedly or are you switching up voicings? What's your rhythmic approach?
     
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    Maybe your drummer is throwing you off.

    Or try turning off your computer and play. The only way I know how to get better.
     
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    The guy's Danish guitarist Jackob Quistgaard, known as Quist. Bryan Ferry's lead guitarist since 2014. 2017 he put out his first solo album, Trigger:



    His Youtube channel is my definite favorite backing track source :)
     
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    Probably the same reason mine do... choice of voicings, way of picking them and so on. When you listen to the track, he's not actually just picking those four chords, he's using intermediate notes and chords, skipping some etc. As those are backing tracks, he obviously uses loops, but I'm betting that doesn't apply to his live playing.

    What it boils down to is simply knowing how to play jazz, understanding chord and melody structures and a LOT of practice.
     
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    I'll use your fancy way of saying he's just a better player than me.:)
     
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    Maybe try something like play simply over the chords. Locate the chords on the neck and start by playing just one or two notes per chord and making those two notes swing.

    Can you sing a lead part that would sound okay? If you can sing it, then you could figure out how to play that melody. It can be a project, but its fun because it gets you out of your regular patterns. Start simple and build naturally.
     
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    I could see how that would get annoying pretty quick, come on Doc, pull the tooth already!!
     
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    he could work on his syncopation a bit, but nice playing
     
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    just for fun before work

    my simple take, i'm not much of a jazzer


    and the backing track


    I'd like to get better at arpeggios. So this is a nice little thing.

    I have been looking at this site I like https://mattwarnockguitar.com/arpeggios/
    using the one octave Maj7 arpeggio shapes about a 1/3rd the way down the page.
     
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    Nice. A common turnaround chord progression for a 1-4-5 type of song, but here spacing is strung out as the basic song progression.
     
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    We love to laugh at drummers but time and feel are what sets most music apart IMO.
     
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    The chords themselves don't make the music, you do.
    Hand those 4 chords to 10 different people and you will get 10 different creations from it.
     
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