Self Driving Cars

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  1. Dennyf

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    I think it's closer than most of us seem to think. Teslas can already do it, autonomous driving was part of a recent software update. And I think @P Thought is absolutely right, there's going to be a paradigm shift. Car ownership will shift to hobby rather than requirement for getting around. There's this concept called "on-demand mobility," NASA is partnered with private industry to make it happen, and yeah, it includes flying cars when we can make those happen. But meanwhile, it applies to ground-based transportation, and Uber already has the concept of fleets of vehicles that you just page when you wanna go somewhere. The only difference between then and now is, A) Uber owns the vehicle, and B) there is no driver.

     
  2. P Thought

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    Ha! the warrant could be emailed to your car and it could arrest you and take you to jail!
     
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    We've already talked about the country song where your wife, your dog and your pickup truck leave you. Soon to appeal in the "sadist song" thread.
     
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    Talk to the back up monitor, the hand isn't listening...
     
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    How many remember all the discussions about seat belts and air bags?...




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    I think about how faulty and unreliable all the appliances are that they decided should have a micro processor to make them "modern". I don't fear the advent of self driving cars...I fear them being unleashed before they're completely engineered...like all new refrigerators and many non self driving cars.
     
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    I'm 100% against it. It will change the way young people think about freedom.
     
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    What if those young people were twice as safe? They are the most dangerous drivers, to themselves and everyone else. It would give them freedom to roam without driving. It might even reduce their insurance rates and maybe everyone elses insurance rates too, eventually. This also reminds me that, "Driving is a privilege, not a right." By the way, by the time human driven cars are no longer available, if ever, we will be dead and it will be a very different world.
     
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    Yeah, as I said, this is a look outside your worldview topic.

    Getting this might also be where you live. Some here are in a metro areas with bike/ped, community cars, bus, train, and bike share options.

    ??? I have three of them in the house. I volunteer in an organization with 600+ kids in programs. They're still young people. Some still ride bikes and use their feet.
     
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    Pros and cons as I see them:

    Pros:
    1. We send the equipment to the gig ahead of us?
    2. More room in cars.
    3. Less stress (eventually, when people stop dying)
    4. Drunk driving over
    5. More productive travel time.
    6. Very predictable travel times.
    7. Fewer fatalities (eventually, when people stop dying)
    8. No more red light cameras.
    9. Pilotless flying drones! (which I would trust before a car. Dont agree? I bet you have already done it, they’re called the airlines).

    Cons:
    1. No car ownership (which is the plan) equals less personal freedom.
    2. I will never get used to cars not slowing down in intersections, just missing each other.
    3. Very boring action movies going forward.
    4. Very boring Nascar;) (oh wait, too late)
    5. I’ll be poking at my phone even more. Even more time on TDPRI:(
    6. Total system dependency.
    7. No more motor cycles:(
    8. No more cool, fun cars.
    9. Getting permission to travel.
     
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  13. ndcaster

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    why drive at all? why not live in your basement with VR "drives" selectable on high-def screens? perfectly safe!

    just in the dark, fake, and provided

    I want my kids to taste the open road
     
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    About the only holdouts are food, fuel and highway signs.

    In work and school I never used anything but metric since the '70s.
     
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    Gonna be weird on back country and public land users. I can't quite see arguing with a car as to whether it can make it over a rock.
     
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    Kids can still taste the open road if someone or something else is driving. I prefer to be a passenger because then I can enjoy sight seeing.

    You are saying that your kids ability to taste the open road is more important to you than anyones safety.
     
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    Progress, eh?

    We're just rehashing the same old arguments had when cars/aeroplanes/ electric guitars etc were first invented.

    "Who'd bother with one of those?" I said about mobile phones and home computers and smart phones etc.

    This is progress... things evolve and change. Get with it or get left behind thinking of 'the good old days' when what you really mean is the 'simpler days that I can look back on instead of having to change and adapt'. Move over, old people... the future is for the young.
     
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    In the collision repair business I can attest these systems added to these vehicles are all moving towards self driving cars. Blind spot monitors, lane departure, forwards distance sensors, adaptive cruse control etc.
    But I am learning to hate them. we have to scan vehicle pre & post repair for function, fight with insurance companies on paying for it, try to determine it they are accident related and so on.
    This adds tremendous cost to vehicles and we can attest to problems with some things like blind spot monitors that don't work because they get covered with dust/dirt or get wet making them junk.
    I don't want this stuff on my vehicle but some you can't not get as they are not options.
    If there is no traffic coming and I want to miss a pot hole I don't want something, beeping or vibrating at me.
    When these things fail and the vehicle is out of warranty the cost is cost prohibitive for most people to repair.
     
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    oh, but think of how much SAFER we'll all be!

    we'll learn to love paying those bills

    it's our Civic Duty!
     
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