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Recommend modeling setup?

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by highwaycat, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. highwaycat

    highwaycat TDPRI Member

    Jun 15, 2017
    I"m looking for a setup with good amp sims and presets. I can't play loud and I like modelers.
    I use a boss br 600 and like it a lot but I want to upgrade my sound. I play through headphones, but am considering getting some speakers.

    I was really considering a Fractal ax8 or a Helix, but the main things that are throwing me off is the price and I'm not experienced in monitors and how I'd go about that.
    But I might save up for one, so they're part of my options.

    I grew up playing amps and pedals, and sometimes a multifx pedal like a boss gt8 and Line6 pod.
    Then started using the Boss br 600.

    I was thinking of maybe upgrading to a Boss br 800 but I don't know if the amp sims sound better?

    I saw a few rack mount modelers but I've never played one, but it could be a possible choice, especially if they're cheaper than the ax8 and helix. But I'm new to rackmount.
    I use to have a Boss gt8 but used it for the effects, didn't like the amp sims.
    I tried the Boss gt100 through the same headphones I usually use and I didn't like it.
    A friend has a new model Zoom multifx but I don't like it.
    So far the Boss br 600 sounds the best to me, but I'd like to consider getting something really nice.

    So I'm not sure what to get. I'd really like to have plenty of great sounding amp sims and ability to have presets.

  2. joshigh

    joshigh Tele-Meister

    Jun 10, 2003
    Plant City, FL
    In the past I've used my computer and studio monitors to get that full range/flat response thing going. I'd use Podfarm or some other software that would really sound good once dialed in. The only hardware you need is a USB interface and speakers, headphones are great too.

    This lets you record easily, play along to tracks you make yourself like a looper, pump in mp3s or youtube videos or whatever, it's really versatile.

    If I had to do something stand alone just for home use, the Pod HD500x would be my choice unless I wanted to throw down on a Helix.

    I also see a lot of praise for the 11rack and those have gotten pretty cheap but I've never used one.

  3. burntfrijoles

    burntfrijoles Friend of Leo's

    Feb 12, 2010
    I would also like a Helix or Helix LT but just don't want to spend that kind of money (yet).
    I traded in some gear at GC to purchase the Line 6 Firehawk. It has some of Line 6 "HD" amp and effect models. I am very pleased with it thus far just playing through my Yamaha powered studio monitor. However, I just ordered an Alto Powered PA Speaker which has received good reviews as an affordable monitor for modelers.
    I very much doubt you'll get much improvement in upgrading to BR800. The BR600 or 800 are made for recording with amp sims thrown in while a dedicated unit has the DSP to run the models, processing and routing at it's full power.

  4. ole6string

    ole6string Tele-Meister

    Jan 25, 2007
    Williamsport, PA
    I would check out the Atomic Amplifire. Got one several months ago and can't put it down. Sounds and feels fantastic.

  5. Allthesound

    Allthesound Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 21, 2011
    Between the Helix and AX8. Helix hands down its far more powerful & flexible.

  6. jvin248

    jvin248 Friend of Leo's

    Apr 18, 2014
    Near Detroit, MI

    Looks like you are going a different direction than this but worth a shot checking out if you are trying to keep costs as low as possible. DAWs, amp sims, drum machines, notation, and more. Perfect if you have an old PC still around that was too slow for Windows and viruses you can wipe and install fresh or just run as a 'liveCD'.


  7. SASouth

    SASouth Tele-Meister

    Aug 17, 2003
    This sounds like someone that has never used an AX8.
    codamedia likes this.

  8. Allthesound

    Allthesound Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 21, 2011
    I have used a AX8 and owned a Axe FX II XL I speak from experience not from my arse . My Helix is more flexible than my old AXE XL. the AX8 is nowhere near the power of the XL.

  9. colchar

    colchar Friend of Leo's

    I am toying with the idea of a modeller and have a question. I see people mentioning monitors - can modellers not be used with a speaker cab or do they just sound better through monitors?

    And for those mentioning software and a computer - I run my computer through my Kenwood mini system so that I can listen to music, TV shows, etc. Would I be able to use that same setup if I ran my guitar into the computer?

  10. highwaycat

    highwaycat TDPRI Member

    Jun 15, 2017
    What sounds similar to the boss amp simulators, the helix or the fractal stuff?
    Keeping in mind I think the boss br 600 sounds better than the boss gt100 and the gt 8. I didn't like the gt100. I tried them through the same headphones.

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