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Recommend a "fancy" wiring style for my new build

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by Sconnie, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Sconnie

    Sconnie Tele-Meister

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    I am working on my first partscaster with a pre-fabricated body from Warmoth and all the spare parts I have lying around, I'm working on the finish now. I want to have a plan ready when it comes time to wire and assemble the instrument and I'm looking for cool ways to wire up two stock pickups.

    Given that the pickups will be said stock Fender tele pups I am very open to 3, 4, or 5-way switching and even push/pull pots if need be (which might not even be possible to use without 4-conductor humbuckers, kindly drop a knowledge bomb on me if that's the case haha).

    What do you guys find cool, interesting, and useful to have on a non-standard tele? I have a tele with standard 3-way wiring and want to make the next one a less redundant.

    Thanks in advance for your input!
     

  2. Televised

    Televised Friend of Leo's

    Apr 26, 2009
    Portland, OR
    I'm not tech savvy enough to give you the "how to", however, one of the best and inexpensive Mods I made to my Tele was installing a "4 Way" switch. The extra "Series" position is great fun on leads and gives a nice Humbucker like growl to the single coils.
     
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  3. waltschwarzkopf

    waltschwarzkopf TDPRI Member

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    How about a 3-way switch and 2 push/pull knobs? One for series/parallel and the other for phase in/out. I had that and it was pretty cool and simple.
     
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    Old Tele man Tele-Holic

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  6. waparker4

    waparker4 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    This is my favorite wiring. Is it fancy enough for you? :D

    3-way and 1 push-pull pot. Switch down - standard tele. Switch up - bridge, bridge/neck half-out-of-phase, and bridge/neck in series.

    [​IMG]
     

  7. trouserpress

    trouserpress Tele-Meister

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    It's got to be 'Deaf Eddies' 5-Way (eyb/schaller superswicht) switching cirquit you're looking for. No other! You get:
    1- bridge
    2- bridge and neck in series and out of phase
    3 - bridge and neck parallel
    4- bridge and neck in series
    5- neck

    No 2 is such cool lead tone when distorted. Series compensates for the oop- volume loss.

    No 4 is rather fat but could be a useful feature - just don't know when.
    Google that one!
     

  8. BariTele

    BariTele Tele-Meister

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    Joe Gore talks about what I would call a "variable cut-off" tone control that uses two capacitors instead of one. I have implemented this in a Mustang and absolutely love it. With a normal tone control, the resonant peak disappears as you roll the tone down, then reappears when you get to zero. To my ear, the variable cut-off seems to preserve that crucial resonant peak, but moves the frequency. It never sounds dull, just darker or brighter. I also wired it to a push/push pot so that I could bypass the tone circuit entirely.
     
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  9. Sconnie

    Sconnie Tele-Meister

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    Great suggestions so far guys, THANKS!
     

  10. BobTheOwl

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  11. waparker4

    waparker4 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    That's the same as wiring a small cap from input to ground across your volume pot... which would be a tidier way to accomplish it.

    I wouldn't call it a new tone control. I'd call it a normal tone control plus putting a fixed low-pass filter on your pickups.
     
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  12. dobrojoe

    dobrojoe Tele-Meister

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    +1 on Deaf Eddie's 5-way. I've put it in all three of my Teles - using the Oaks-Grigsby Thinline Superswitch. No need for push-pulls.
     
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  13. kennl

    kennl Tele-Holic

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    I will be trying that out!
     
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  14. waltschwarzkopf

    waltschwarzkopf TDPRI Member

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    Now, that IS cool! I might try it when I rewire mine, which I do every 2 weeks or so... Although I don't fully understand the wiring, there are no switches and both pickups are wired in series, correct? With "tone 29" you change the resistance and the pickups transition smoothly from series to parallel while adjusting the tone, correct? And "tone 25" works more or less like a volume knob, right?
     

  15. Dacious

    Dacious Friend of Leo's

    Mar 16, 2003
    Godzone
    Another vote for Deaf Eddie's 5-way. 250K vol pot and the out of phase series is awesome for a 'different' twanky tone and the series in-phase is great with a pushed clean tone - very ballsy. Best thing - stock appearance.
     
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  16. bblumentritt

    bblumentritt Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 3, 2012
    Austin, Texas
    Notice that the tube amplifier is an integral part of the circuit. There are no controls on the amp. Volume and tone are controlled at the guitar. Yep.
     

  17. Despres

    Despres Tele-Holic

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    I used this one:

    https://sites.google.com/site/phostenixwiringdiagrams/5-way-shoop

    But now I am wondering about the recommendation above that has the OOP position in Series vs Parallel. I really like the HOoP sound in position 2, but there is a volume drop that is problematic for on-the-fly shifts.

    I used a no-load tone pot as well.
     

  18. waparker4

    waparker4 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    I don't notice a volume drop with half-out-of-phase parallel. Maybe it's my pickups.
     

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  20. Sconnie

    Sconnie Tele-Meister

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    Two problems: That's a three pickup schematic and Jerry Garcia is one of my least favorite musicians ever and I don't like his sound at all. Three problems... :lol:
     

  21. tnt1234

    tnt1234 TDPRI Member

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    Ha! Well then, stay away from that link!

    The preamp is worth considering regardless of your style. And if you uses effects, the OBEL concept is remarkably effective IMO.
     
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