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Rebuilding a '65 SG

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by tigger, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. coldengray

    coldengray Tele-Meister

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    Charlotte, NC
    I’m really enjoying this thread. Why not add a stinger to hide the neck break?
     
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  2. tigger

    tigger Tele-Meister

    I don't really like them... I was actually considering putting a thin veneer on just like the neck sides, but it wouldn't be easy to blend in and I'm afraid it would actually make the joint weaker. I'll probably leave it like it is.
     
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  3. RickyRicardo

    RickyRicardo Friend of Leo's

    Mar 27, 2012
    Calgary, Alberta
    I wouldn't worry about the epoxy line. It's now the character and signature of the guitar. And a reminder of the great work you're doing.
     

  4. Barncaster

    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

    Well Tigger,
    I believe Gibson is making new relics now that include repaired neck breaks. You are just a little ahead of the curve! There are just some repair indications that are too substantial to mask. My input is to neaten it as much as possible and carry on. The break picture kind of looks like the face of a tortoise wearing John Lennon glasses with an awkward smile. It works!
    Rob
     

  5. Barncaster

    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

    Hi Tigger,
    Concerning the nut, bone will give you more tone! I have no idea why they went to nylon for bridge saddles and nuts besides ease of workability and cost. It certainly didn’t help sonically. But then again that’s just my $.02.
    Rob
     
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  6. tigger

    tigger Tele-Meister

    I started working on a bone nut. The nylon is way harder than the bone. It's definitely a part of the reason why I went with the bone, it seems comparatively immune to sandpaper and files. I imagine it would have been cheaper...
     
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  7. tigger

    tigger Tele-Meister

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    I cut the nut so that the string spaces are even (rather than string centers being evenly laid out). It seems that is what people like more. I looked at my stock guitar nuts and frankly they are all over the place with string spacing.

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    I did most of the shaping before glueing and will do the rest once the guitar is finished and frets are leveled.

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  8. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County

  9. ndeli55

    ndeli55 Tele-Afflicted

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    May 12, 2008
    oklahoma
    Finish her already! I’m on the hook bad.
     

  10. Barncaster

    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

    The nylon you have is harder than the bone? What durometer value did you purchase?
     

  11. Pickin N Grinin

    Pickin N Grinin Tele-Meister

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    Mar 9, 2008
    New Jersey U.S.A.
    Just incredible how far this project has come. Can't wait to see it strung up and playing.
     
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  12. tigger

    tigger Tele-Meister

    Nylon 6/6 is supposed to be about 80. But I don't know what is the durometer hardness of cow bone... (I'm a mathematician, not a material physicist)
     

  13. Barncaster

    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

    I just looked up cow femur and it’s about 78. I would have not guessed that.
     

  14. tigger

    tigger Tele-Meister

    Yes, I knew it was hard so I wasn't surprised, but the optics makes you think it will be a rubbery compound.
     
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  15. tigger

    tigger Tele-Meister

    I wish I could too! But after a long dry spell it's up to 85% humidity so there isn't much I can do..
     
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  16. naneek

    naneek Tele-Meister

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    Mar 19, 2010
    PNW
    always good to be cautious. great job man, it was very fun to speed through months of precision work reading this from beginning to end. the serial number stamps are great, looks just like the stamp on the 81 sg I learned to play on, right down to the slight variations in pressure and the subtle outline of the stamp itself. I've always loved the small pickguard design.

    Don't worry about the little imperfections, your work is up to a very high standard. Even without evidence of repairs, I've seen plenty of vintage gibsons that have original factory flaws and it didn't stop them from leaving the factory and sold at retail. For instance, the numerals in the serial stamps are often slightly crooked, and mine actually had a splotch on the back where a worker had clearly spilled the stain and accidentally created a little rorsach pattern on top of the woodgrain.
     
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  17. R. Stratenstein

    R. Stratenstein Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Aug 3, 2010
    Loganville, Ga.
    Nylon nuts are likely injection molded, and as such, the basic form and slots are already done when it pops out of the mold, requiring significantly less labor to finish it up, saving a lot of time and $$ in skilled labor costs.
     
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  18. Barncaster

    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

    The Injection Molded Nuts... na, close Rick but Yeknom says no. For his next funk band he was thinking something along the lines Banana Injection or Anita Chaquita and the Banana Peelers...
     
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  19. TRexF16

    TRexF16 Friend of Leo's

    Apr 4, 2011
    Tucson
    Rob, please tell me you are just pulling our leg. If it has come to that, "I just don't know if I can bear it..."

    Rex
     
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  20. Barncaster

    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

    Rex,
    I actually read that somewhere. Let me do the semi-responsible thing and follow up with a fact check. Stand by.
    Rob
     

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