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R.I.P. Dirt G.A.S.

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by MilwMark, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. Post-HK

    Post-HK Tele-Meister

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    Jun 21, 2009
    US
    Standard SD-1 or Waza?
     

  2. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Waza. I felt like the buffer was more invisible when I A/Bd them. Could have been my imagination.
     

  3. czech-one-2

    czech-one-2 Friend of Leo's

    Oct 3, 2008
    Prague
    I've gotta agree with the DOD 250. I'm using my [Grey spec clone] like a slightly dirty boost and nothing else I own sounds as good!
    Currently DOD 250>Movall Firefly>RAT>DOD FX-52 classic fuzz.
     

  4. richey88

    richey88 Friend of Leo's

    Jul 28, 2009
    philly suburbs
    Surely I have posted here before. TC Rusty Fuzz, TS clone Kokko, Soul Food
     
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  5. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Surprise update - I have been trying to simplify even more. As part of that quest, I tried a T Rex Soulmate. Perfect! One cable in, one out, one power supply. Weighs under 5lbs.

    Very high quality buffer and effects. Nice gain-staging - clean, OD, Distortion, OD+distortion and a boost that can be used with any of those combinations. It also has a nice delay and reverb. *Edit - oh, and it has a tuner. Which seems to work just fine to me. Mutes the signal. Makes the guitar sound in tune.

    The effects are to my ear all tuned for stage. They sit and work really well in a mix.

    First rehearsal yesterday. Best feedback came from our bassist (also a professional sound guy) - I heard no change from your fancy individual pedals board.

    Maybe it's time to learn how to sell on Reverb. Old Rats and KTRs and DD2s, oh my!

    The funny part - after all that obsessing over nuance - I don't even really know what the OD and distortion are! I just know they sound greet, combine well, and have the dynamics I need.
     
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  6. PastorJay

    PastorJay Tele-Holic

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    Apr 12, 2014
    California
    Glad you like it.

    I love mine. It's the only pedal with dirt that I've used since I got it. Do wish it had a tremolo (like the old Carl Martin Quatro did). Sometimes I add a trem or a shimmer pedal between the Soulmate and the amp.

    My recollection is that the OD is based on the Moller, which is a TS style, and the Dist is based on a Mudhoney, which I read somewhere is Rat-based. In the end it doesn't matter, they sound great!

    Congratulations.
     
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  7. waparker4

    waparker4 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA

    Don't you need tremolo? Or are you using the DR's footswitch?
     

  8. artdecade

    artdecade Poster Extraordinaire

    Dec 6, 2010
    Twangsylvania
    Not if you roll your volume knob up and down really fast. Sure, I can't do that while playing, so I consider it a "ducking" tremolo.
     
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  9. waparker4

    waparker4 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    I do that to "be cool" at the end of a song. :)
     
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  10. supersoldier71

    supersoldier71 Tele-Holic

    Age:
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    503
    Nov 22, 2009
    Fayetteville, NC
    Rat, TS9, Soul Food, SD1, DS1, Freq Boost and 2 amps with OD channels...I'm good as well. Took me some time to realize it, but sometimes, contentment is right under my nose.

    I swap the TS9 and the Rat out depending on what I'm playing, and obviously, I can swap in any of the others whenever, but I'm much happier with fewer options.
     

  11. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    I do use the DR's trem.

    Or more recently, the '68 CPR. It has a great trem. And I'm realizing it's plenty loud for almost everything we do.
     

  12. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Thanks. I use amp trem so I'm covered. The chorus on the delay and the LFO Reverb are pretty useful to "fake" having a true modulation pedal also. I end up never using true modulation pedals because they are hard for me to manage and fit in the mix anyway.
     

  13. Wrong-Note Rod

    Wrong-Note Rod Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Mar 4, 2009
    atlanta

    congratulations! Are you still GAS free?

    (edit - I broke my own rule, I didnt read the whole thread... too long... my apologies)


    I'm so over it all, people were going bonkers for the Joyo USA for 20 bucks... and I looked and thought, nah. Its just another one. I cant be bothered.....

    You're right, they all do the same thing more or less and the only difference I can tell from most of them, is the midrange voicing. And the only thing that really means, in practicality, is that X pedal will work better with Y guitar or Y plus Z amp, and theres a million combinations.

    The rest of it, the 99% important part, is what you play.
     
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  14. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Good question. I am now.

    The distilled version of this thread is that "still" would be an overstatement. Over the tortured 3 years of this thread, I've gradually winnowed down, and my buying/trading slowed way down and only occurred with purpose.

    But now it has stopped by default and by force. I have nowhere to "put" a different dirt pedal. My board is the Soulmate and whatever is not in it, I won't use. No pulling out two patch cables and a daisy-chain plug, and swapping something in.

    I'm even seeing if I can ditch the volume pedal. I could in theory patch one into the Soulmate but would prefer not to. Over the last several shows I've been acutely aware that all stage presence disappears when working the volume pedal. It's hard to bounce, tap, crouch or do other shenanigans with one foot stuck to the volume pedal. Seemed ok to go without, after one rehearsal.
     

  15. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Update. Sadly I just couldn’t make the Soulmate work live. I have to wear progressives or I can’t see the side dots on the neck, and a row of silver buttons was hard to see and work. Even with glow tape. After four shows of not admitting to myself that I kept stepping on the wrong thing/things I paid closer attention at the fifth and still couldn’t make it work. I sing a ton of lead and harmonies, and play a ton of lead/riffs in a dynamic band and try to engage the crowd. Just couldn’t make looking down and focusing work without sacrificing that. Real bummer.

    Back to an even smaller Boss board.

    TU3W -> JB2 -> SD1w -> DD7. At home my OD2 subs in for the SD1 because it can get nice and dynamic without choking out at low volumes. I had also kept my BD2W for single pedal days.

    Failurely yours,
    MilwMark
     
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  16. 11 Gauge

    11 Gauge Doctor of Teleocity

    Mar 21, 2003
    Near BWI Int'l
    No shame in that. Either it works, or it doesn't. Maybe you can shelve it to try again down the road, but IMO, no big deal either way. It's just gear.

    I'm in the same situation. Had 20/20 for all my younger years, and part of my 40's. Those days are gone. Just a few K.I.S.S. boxes are all that are going to be realistically usable on a gig, and that's fine, and I'm grateful for them.

    My only big conundrum is trying to add/use a hall/plate 'verb, and I think I have to admit that it probably won't be a reality, unless I can find a way to make it intuitive (it has to include an expression pedal or it just won't work, IMO). Not to worry, because it's 'a good problem to have,' in the bigger context.

    Either way, I'm done fooling with all of this stuff, beyond the known gear that works, for 70%+ of typical scenarios.
     
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  17. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Yes. The cool thing is, I’ve never been happier with my tone and rig. Soulmate? Sounds great.. Small Boss rig? Sounds grest. No need to look further.
     
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  18. cousinpaul

    cousinpaul Friend of Leo's

    Jun 19, 2009
    Nashville TN
    I'm with you on the vision thing. I've swapped out knobs, put painter's tape over super-bright LED's, etc, so I can read my settings at a glance and make quick tweaks when I need to.


    Regarding G.A.S, swapping out the bridge pickup on my strat has opened up a lot of possibilities with pedals I already own although I'm still sticking to the format of a tight amp-like drive and a fuzzier drive or distortion into delay and reverb on a PT nano board. The only recent purchase worth mentioning is a no-name Colorsound Overdriver clone I found on Reverb. I'm lovin' that thing in the fuzzy drive slot. It's set for maximum picking dynamics but can fill a lot of roles from boost/pre-amp to old school fuzz. It's been getting a lot of play.
     
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  19. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    One more post before a break.

    I was surprised by the JB-2. Low noise. Dynamic. Distinct sounds. The mode to toggle between the BD and the AC (more mids and gain) is very useful live. Works better with my amp and pickups than the KTR. An all Boss board appeals to me.

    Works like a charm. Cheers.

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  20. RetroTeleRod

    RetroTeleRod Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    53
    Oct 24, 2012
    Oklahoma, USA

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