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Pontiac fact check. (trivial)

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by BobbyZ, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. BobbyZ

    BobbyZ Doctor of Teleocity

    Jan 12, 2011
    Snellman MN
    Some car show's on TV and the guy's looking at a 55 Pontiac and says something about how that's the first year of the V8 and they didn't offer a 6 cylinder again until the 70s gas crunch.
    Is he right ?
  2. corliss1

    corliss1 Friend of Leo's Platinum Supporter

    Sep 13, 2008
    Lansing, MI
  3. don71

    don71 Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 6, 2009
    Central Missouri
    It seems to me both the TV show and the wiki article contradict them selves.

    I immediatly thought of the sprint the over head cam engine. 1966 for the intermediate sized cars.

    Their comment can only be correct if it refers to "full size" cars.
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  4. Recce

    Recce Tele-Afflicted

    May 3, 2016
    Northern Alabama
    The part that really is aggravating is Pontiac is gone. I was a Pontiac guy.
  5. Zepfan

    Zepfan Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    Pontiac limited their use of 6 cylinder engines as did Oldsmobile and Buick til the 70's. Then they brought back larger scale use of straight six and V six engines. Chevrolet continued to produce large quantities of straight six engines through the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's.

    If you build a straight six engine right, you'll embarrass many a V8 guys.
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  6. bsman

    bsman Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 8, 2003
    Santa Clara
    When I met her, my wife had a '67 Firebird with a six-banger, so they were reintroduced well before the '73/74 OPEC boycott.
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  7. brookdalebill

    brookdalebill Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

    Nov 15, 2009
    Austin, Tx
    My Dad had a great looking 67 gold with black top LeMans two door sedan.
    He was under it every weekend, after driving it to San Antone and back five days a week.
    He hated that son of a gun!
    Thanks for listening.
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  8. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity

    Mar 2, 2010
    Didn't read the wiki but I had a '57 Chevy with a '60s Pontiac 215 six, and Pontiac actually put an overhead cam six in some '60s models.
    I've seen those sixes in numerous late '60s LeMans'.
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  9. suave eddie

    suave eddie Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 28, 2009
    Great White North
    My family had a '56 Pontiac with a V8. I believe it was 316.5 ci displacement.
    Prior to that we had a '49 Pontiac with I believe was a straight 8.


  10. D_W_PGH

    D_W_PGH Friend of Leo's

    Aug 28, 2018
    Dad had a Pontiac firebird with a 6 cylinder engine before the gas crunch of the 70s.
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  11. D_W_PGH

    D_W_PGH Friend of Leo's

    Aug 28, 2018
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  12. schmee

    schmee Friend of Leo's

    Jun 2, 2003
    Yep, some late 60's Pontiac Le Mans models had an oddball OHC 6 in them.... right?

    One of my favorite cars from back in the day was a 57 Pontiac star chief 2 Dr HT. Salmon Pink and Grey!
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  13. boris bubbanov

    boris bubbanov Telefied Ad Free Member

    The Pontiac Tempest came out in late 1960 I think with a four and the gearbox integrated into the rear axle (torque tube) and this four was essentially one half of their V-8.

    John DeLorean oversaw the introduction of an overhead cam 6 (about 225 cubes) that was less reliable than an eight but far superior to something like the Lordstown Vega motors with aluminum blocks and iron heads (double duh!!).

    Yeah I gave my new school principal a very hard time that his full size '62 Pontiac had no options - but it did have that huge iron block V-8 if only in detuned form.
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  14. BobbyZ

    BobbyZ Doctor of Teleocity

    Jan 12, 2011
    Snellman MN
    Yupper! I was thinking of the OHC 6, it came out in the 66 Tempest. I've only ever seen one in a junkyard as a teenager, and Pontiac nut.

    My first car was a 70 Le Mans with a 350 hp, 400 out of a 70 Grand Prix, with a 4 on the floor.
    What a stupid car for a teenager. Lol
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  15. boris bubbanov

    boris bubbanov Telefied Ad Free Member

    Now you're making me feel elderly. My buddy Rick had a '66 Tempest OHC 6, and we reworked the carb and replaced some shocks and so forth, and it only had 50,000 miles at that stage. It had a long way to go but honestly, it was trouble free and we spent WAY more time working on those 389s and 400s in some of my other friends' cars. Although, those were GTOs and we ran those quite hard - broke some big parts on those (during launch, usually). On Bob's dark blue '66, we somehow got the axle dislodged from the U bolts and turned way the wrong way and the brake lines failed and the axle would only permit towing in reverse.
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  16. mexicanyella

    mexicanyella Tele-Holic

    Jan 26, 2012
    Troy, MO
    A buddy in my college years had a "68ish LeMans parts car with the 230 OHC six. A neighbor had one in a 60-something Firebird, too.
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  17. bowman

    bowman Friend of Leo's

    Sep 15, 2006
    Back in the '70s, my buddy down the street had a '69 LeMans convertible, and I had a '69 Chevelle convertible. Both had 6 cylinder engines.
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  18. jackinjax

    jackinjax Friend of Leo's

    Sep 11, 2016
    006.jpg Here's a 1966 Pontiac OHC 6 Sprint 6 cylinder. My brother's best friend had a 1966 Pontiac Lemans, red convertible, that had this engine; a real screamer.

  19. boris bubbanov

    boris bubbanov Telefied Ad Free Member

    The Pontiac Tempest/GTO was the Official Car of the Williamsville North High School, Class of 1971. There must have been 10 guys who had them (including one guy, John Richter, who lost his license and used his snowmobile to get to school when possible). There was a clear pecking order.

    1) Guys with heavily modified/reworked motors, manual gearboxes and various speed equipment;

    2) Guys with stock or close to stock 389s with any form of manual;

    3) Guys with V-8s with automatics (??????); and

    4) The guys with Sixes.

    For sixes, they were pretty decent. But they couldn't handle the withering output of the guys with the eights. I guess Rick's Tempest 6 (manual) was not embarrassed by the guys with the automatics. Although, you know, if we'd put fresh Raybestos clutch packs and shift kits in these Hydramatics they should have been pretty decent. I guess we didn't bother. The manual was just too much fun.
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  20. Mike Simpson

    Mike Simpson Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 19, 2006
    Gilbert, AZ (PHX)
    61 to 63 Pontiac Tempest had a 4 cyl and 64 to 67 Pontiac Tempest had a 6 cyl although v8 motors were available in the Tempest those years.
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