Plastic washers for tuner buttons.

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  1. Rich_S

    Rich_S Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

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    I was just restringing my '05 MIM Telecaster, and noticed the B string tuner suddenly got very stiff. Upon examination, I found the little white plastic washer between the tuner body and the button had split. It then kind of spread out, allowing metal-to-metal contact. These are the stock, modern-style tuners.

    Does anybody know a source for these tiny little washers?

    Don't better tuners have bronze or brass washers in this spot? If there's a source for these, I might swap 'em out.

    I'd hate to change out the whole set ot tuners for one dinky little washer.
     
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    You can use small O rings in the place. Or, any store that sells nuts and bolts probably has plastic washers that will fit.

    If you're handy, take a piece of plastic with the right thickness and cut your own washer. Not a critical part.
     
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    Hmm... looks as though Guitar Parts resource sells the MIM Standard tuners individually (bottom of the page). In sets, they only sell the staggered-post American Standard version.
     
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    I'd try make one like Finck suggested. Maybe try a icecream container lid or something of the sort? I'd also lube the others to try stop them from splitting too. Maybe try get some nut sauce on them.
     
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    You can get nylon washers from any old school hardware store.

    Just bring the tuner with you, and if possible, bring one of the good ones too to make sure you get the right size.

    If you don't have a hardware store convenient, you can get them online. Contact Ping and see if they'll tell you what size washer to get.

    I had something similar happen with a Yamaha guitar a few years ago.

    I was able to find a spare tuner in my parts drawer, and even though it was a slightly different design from the Yamaha tuner, I was able to "borrow" the nylon washer from the spare to use on the Yamaha tuner.

    The spare washer was slightly thicker than the Yamaha washer, but it worked perfectly.

    I think Grover used metal washers back in the 60s, but they went to nylon on the 70s. The nylon is less prone to binding, and once you know what size to get, they are cheaper too.

    Just get yourself a nylon washer, not an o ring. O rings are designed to seal, therefore bind.

    Nylon washers are easily available. No reason to replace the whole set, or go all creative trying to invent a substitute.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    I’ll try my local ACE store next time I drive past. They have a huge aisle of parts, but I’m not sure they’ll have a nylon washer this small. We’ll see.
     
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    7 cents. :cool:
     
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    No luck. My local store is pretty well-stocked as far as fasteners go, but they don't have these. The washers they do have with the right ID are too big OD-wise, and twice as thick as what's on the guitar. Given my non-machinist level of measuring precision, as near as I can tell the dimensions are:

    ID: #8 5/32" 0.16" or 4mm
    OD: 1/4" 0.25" or 6mm
    Thickness: 1/32" 0.03" or 0.8mm

    I searched Mouser, Grainger, McMaster-Carr, Amazon and various other websites and can't find anything like this.

    I'm seriously considering buying a set of American Standard staggered tuners ($43) and putting these other tuners and their precious little washers in my spare parts bin. Suxxx.

    Edit: Just emailed Fender support. Not expecting much, but stay tuned.
     
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    @Rich_S
    I don't know man, at $1.44 including shipping? I realize there's a bit of a wait, but.............? FWIW, McMaster-Carr likely has them, but they may "officially" be called something different than your search terms. Any Ace, True-Value or Fastenal store or other hardware joint ought to have something suitable in stock.
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    TDPRI wins. AllParts does indeed list the washer on their US site. Sadly, it’s out of stock, but I’m on their list for an email when it’s back.

    Fender Support sent me a link to AllParts, but took longer than BoogerRooger.

    Now I wait.
     
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    I found some at Lowe’s for an old Ibanez. I had looked everywhere. Cost under a dollar
     
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    I'll check Lowe's tomorrow. I thought ACE was my best bet here in town, but Lowe's might surprise me.
     
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    Lowe’s surprised me not. Waiting on AllParts.
     
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    I got an email from AllParts last week saying that the washers were back in stock. I had to order a pair of Tele knobs in addition, to make the minimum order. I received them today, so problem solved.

    If anyone needs a tiny little nylon washer, I have 11 extras.
     
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