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Pink Paisley Paper

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by rafael.braga, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. MaskedRider

    MaskedRider Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 31, 2005
    Midwest
    Oh,the humanity!

    "1968 Fender Paisley Tele - Complete Guitar Restoration

    Stripped off old wallpaper and replace with original Borden company wallpaper. Installed B and E Bender. New metallic sunburst, custom plexiglass back-plate. Complete guitar setup."

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  2. JPTannercaster

    JPTannercaster TDPRI Member

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    Apr 21, 2007
    Texas
    So does anyone know how the folks at schneider guitars got their hands on the original Bordens paisley wallpaper?????
     

  3. Buckocaster51

    Buckocaster51 Super Moderator Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    Iowa USA
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    Good question.

    I have no answer.

    Only speculation.

    ;)
     

  4. olliebross

    olliebross TDPRI Member

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    Jul 21, 2011
    Paris, France
    I tried to contact him but I had no response at all ... will try again to reach him
    if anyone has info on his paper, pls let us know ;-)
     

  5. bigred8215

    bigred8215 TDPRI Member

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    Sep 15, 2010
    Elkton, VA
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    Left is an Allparts paisley and right is a Crook relic. The Allparts paper is fantastic! But it's hard to beat a Crook.
     

  6. Buckocaster51

    Buckocaster51 Super Moderator Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    That's nice. Bill builds a great guitar.

    The Allparts paisley body I have seen is a very accurate reproduction.
     

  7. bigred8215

    bigred8215 TDPRI Member

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    Sep 15, 2010
    Elkton, VA
    Bill does build a great guitar, by far my favorite! I'm excited to see some more pics of the new paisley paper he's doing now!
     

  8. Olgabowl

    Olgabowl Tele-Meister

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    Nov 23, 2011
    Olga, WA
    These pics speak volumes as to how these things were made...

    A lot of the modern builds I'm seeing on these pages take the paper all the way to the edge, then the edge bevel takes place in an attempt to blend the paper to the wood...

    But these pics show that the paper was sized to a certain distance from the edge of the guitar (1/2" or so??), then heavily poly'd to level the wood to the paper edge, then painted...

    Very interesting....
     

  9. MaskedRider

    MaskedRider Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 31, 2005
    Midwest
    Here are some closeup shots of a a 1968 Telecaster I found online. They are from Twangcentral Guitars...208 Gilbert St Adelaide, South Australia

    Is that Terry's guitar?

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  10. Buckocaster51

    Buckocaster51 Super Moderator Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    You don't see them much nicer than that.
     

  11. Olgabowl

    Olgabowl Tele-Meister

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    Nov 23, 2011
    Olga, WA
    This pic really illustrates how these were put together, with the paper cut undersized to the body's shape...
     

  12. braderrick

    braderrick Tele-Afflicted

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    Sep 27, 2006
    Kentucky
    That is a nice one indeed, great shape, little fading, and a nice narrow tight burst!
     

  13. TerryOz

    TerryOz Tele-Holic

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    Mar 25, 2003
    South Australia
    Wondering if they'd show up again...

    Yes, that is mine, but I am going to leave it to Buckocaster in my will! Is that Okay with you Steve? ;)
    Any decent close ups of the Allparts paper? Here we go again!
    TerryOz
     

  14. Buckocaster51

    Buckocaster51 Super Moderator Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    Oky-Doky with me!

    But I ain't no spring chicken ya know!
     

  15. Buckocaster51

    Buckocaster51 Super Moderator Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    Terry, I thought I had posted these...

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    I think they have come about as close as can be expected.
     

  16. MaskedRider

    MaskedRider Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 31, 2005
    Midwest
    Is that the same paper as my Tokai?

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  17. TDPRI

    TDPRI Administrator Staff Member

    Mar 2, 2003
    TDPRILAND
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    Nope. The main difference is in the background. Both the embossing pattern is different and the color of the background is different as well.

    On the Tokia the embossing is more like lines and the original Fender and the new Allparts is more like dots. And the Tokia appears to be using gold metallic paper backing and the Allparts (and original) are silver. The gold color tends to come from aged or tinted clear coat.

    I'm not sure where Allparts is getting their paper, but they've done a good job of it.
     

  18. Buckocaster51

    Buckocaster51 Super Moderator Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    There are two things that I have noticed about most (if not all) of the Tokai paisleys I have seen in photos:

    1)on the base side of the pickguard, the pink shading goes up to the screw hole. I have not noticed the same thing on Fenders.

    2)The paper/paisley finish around the string ferrules tends to be missing...maybe "odd" is a better term. It just doesn't look the same as Mr. Fender did it.

    I have handled one of the new Allparts paisley bodies. It was exceptionally well done.
     

  19. MaskedRider

    MaskedRider Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 31, 2005
    Midwest
    Thanks! I think the Tokai paper is also silver but the clear coat yellows making it appear Gold. It is less yellowed under the pickguard. Also,the embossing looks more like dots.

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    The Fender MIJ reissue paper that has the line pattern like in the comparison photos you posted(below)

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  20. Olgabowl

    Olgabowl Tele-Meister

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    Nov 23, 2011
    Olga, WA
    Hi Terry...
    Any chance of a rough measurement of the distance from where they cut the paper, to the flat edge of the guitar??
    (Hard to describe!).

    Anyway, I'm seeing the paper cut to the body's outline, then trimmed down a certain amount, then glued into place...

    I'd love to know what that "certain amount" was on the original instruments.....

    Thanks!!
     

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