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Pine and "Cedar" Tele - Noob Build

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by PingGuo, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    making progress!

    I slotted the fret board using the router... Should have made a jig to make it stupid proof. but it went well enough.

    the backup fret-board had been used for some dye testing. and made a great indicator for how the radius work was going.

    I did the radius by hand... that was the worst. I wont be doing that again.

    I'll take the fret board out of its clamps tonight. And do the flush trim tomorrow. I need to figure out some side dots next. Face is staying dot free.

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  2. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    more progress!

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  3. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    Side dots done!

    It was a mess :(

    they're super goofy. next time I'll make a jig for it.

    oh well.

    What do you think of the glitter and epoxy? Hopefully it sands up nicely.

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  4. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    That looks great! Don't worry about that epoxy excess, it will disappear with a little sanding.
     

  5. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    I got most of that sanded off last night.

    The real problem is that the dots are not consistent enough. I'll have to build a jig or figure out a way to make the next one better.

    This guitar kinda looks like a wiggling snake.

     

  6. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    Drill your holes when the wood is a rectangle with a smooth edge against the fence of a drill press.
     
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  7. brownale99

    brownale99 TDPRI Member

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    If you don't have a drill press I found drilling the fret markers not too bad as long as you use a bradawl to mark the centres and a brad point bit to drill the holes. Just put a piece of tape around the drill bit to the depth needed.
     
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  8. LocoTex

    LocoTex Tele-Holic

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    Lookin' good!
     
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  9. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    Thanks. That's how I'll do it next time.

    There's nothing like learning by making mistakes :)
     
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  10. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    To me, it makes so much sense to rout a truss rod slot and drill dot holes before a rectangular wood gets cut into a different shape.
     

  11. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    You're very right!

    I have one more neck blank that's glued up already with a headstock wing but no truss rod route. That'll be the last one I do like that for sure.

    As for the fingerboard. I'll probably do the dots before I glue it on to the neck, like you mentioned, next time.

    The build continues! This one is getting completed regardless of flaws so I can move on to the next one... and hopefully do better next time :)

    Thank you for all the tips and suggestions. I've appreciated them.
     

  12. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    Back from a work trip in China. And now I'm back to building guitars.

    I chose to try to thickness the neck on the router table... That was a mistake. And I did the rest of the thickness on the ROSS. As a result I have a pretty crazy taper from 18.7mm to 21mm.

    But in the hand it actually feels pretty good.

    The black spot, I believe, is the truss rod. I'll get some low profile rods for super thin necks in the future. I think 19.5 to 21 feels "right" anyhow.

    The other issue is that it ended up really narrow. At the nut it's about 1.62"

    It'll be a little un. Anyhow, The next one will be a little bit better.

    I didn't take any pictures of it. But I did most of the carving on the ROSS. It worked really well for me.

    I was surprised at how easy the volute and heel angles were. I thought they were going to be really hard to get. But the tool just kinda fit them.

    I think this build is getting close to being finished. but now I'm at the hard part where all I can see are the mistakes. And I want to move on to the next build.

    Not happening! unless I do something to make the guitar unplayable, this one is getting built.

    Let me know what you think :)

    -Vic

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  13. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    Practice makes perfect on necks. You get better with the repetition of doing more than one. I had more problems with getting frets in and it took 10 or so until I was happy with them.

    I have tapered necks on the router table by putting blocks at the peghead and heel. I used differing heights to achieve the taper I wanted and used double sided tape to hold them in place. I also had a radial arm saw that had a router collet on one end and I used dowels sanded down on one side to do the same thing as the block method.... Lots of different ways to achieve the same thing. Remember, only the wood on the centerline ends up with that taper after you carve it. :)

    My opinion on heels is that the closer you can get to the Ed Hawley drawing neck heel, the more professional it looks. That has a couple of reverse curves on it that looks killer when done carefully.
     
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  14. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    I think for the next neck I'll set up a sled and some shims to get the taper I'm after.

    I just drew the heel on with some french curves. Do you have a current link to Ed's PDFs. I used this one: http://www.tdpri.com/threads/53-cnc-build.83286/page-34#post967457 but it appears to be dead.

    Overall I'm pretty please with how it all went. I think most of the mistakes and missteps were ones I can learn from. So hopefully it'll lead to improvement.

    Thank's for all the encouragement!

    -Vic
     

  15. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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  16. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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  17. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    Done with test routes for the neck that’s going on to the body. Tomorrow I’ll do the real route.

    The test routes are perfectly snug

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  18. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    I made my drum sander so it can take a 1 1/2" board, when I do the necks I tape a shim on the fretboard and sand a tapper to the back. A little tricky adjusting the height up with the neck in place and then starting it up but that is where the wimpy 1/3 hp motor is actually a benefit.

    I still need to make a jig for the dots, just free handing it for now.
     

  19. PingGuo

    PingGuo Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    I'm not sure I totally understand. If you have time to post some pictures of what you described I'd love to see them.

    Best,
    -Vic
     

  20. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County

    He's using his drum sander to sand the taper in the back of the neck. In order to do this you have to shim the neck and then raise and lower the drum sander table to feed the wood in. You also have to start and stop the feeding at the right places. My sander has a conveyor belt which makes that kind of task a bit trickier...but still doable. I've done a similar thing a couple times too.
     

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