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Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by meff, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. meff

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    Hi there, I'm hoping you guys would be able to help me date some what I believe to be vintage Tele pickups, here are the pictures I've got so far, let me know if there are any more I should take. Don't let the vintage noiseless box fool you, the vintage noiseless are currently installed in the guitar, the "hopefully originals" were shipped in the noiseless box.

    Please let me know any opinions you have on the manufacturer and date of origin of these pickups.
     

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    w3stie Poster Extraordinaire

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    You know I had an entirely different expectation of the content given this thread title!
     
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    piece of ash Friend of Leo's

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    I don't date pickups... even if they are single.
     
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    Bartholomew3 Friend of Leo's

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    IMO --- if it has plastic wiring I don't consider it a vintage p/u.
     
  6. meff

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    Hehe, never thought of how ridiculous a subject pickup dating is out of context. Any chance you guys can tell me when they started using plastic wiring? These were supposed to be the original pickups off an early 70s Tele.

    Also, the plastic wire within a grounding sleeve struck me as odd, it's the first time I've seen anything of the sort, but I honestly haven't been paying attention to pickup design for very long.
     
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    Wrong-Note Rod Friend of Leo's

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    sad but true....


    where are the TDPRI sexist police when you really need them, eh?
     
  8. Bartholomew3

    Bartholomew3 Friend of Leo's

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    You may find something on the link below.

    Plastic wiring isn't sixties. I have cloth in a 68 so would imagine it started in the seventies at some point as mentioned but don't know how it would be possible to actually date them.

    http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fender2.html
     
  9. spankdplank

    spankdplank Tele-Afflicted

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    Plastic wiring started in early 69. Those look like later 70's, especially since the bridge pup has a braided shield, which the earlier 70's pups didn't have.
     
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    I've never seen a real Fender bridge pickup with that braided wiring.
     
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    The single coil of the 70s Telecaster Custom had braided wire (just like the neck humbucker). That is also why it is so long, it had to reach the selector switch. The dark grey bottom is also typical for the 70s. That pickup is probably dated with an ink stamp that can be seen when you lift the bottom plate and look under the paper tape. The DCR seems a bit low (?). Don't know about the neck pickup. The edges of the cover are not rounded like the typical 70s neck pickup. 1975 and later have a thicker bottom flatwork and taller magnets (like the Strat). But I do not see that here.
     
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    Freewheeler Tele-Afflicted

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    I've never heard about braided Fender bridge pickup leads. In the Tele Custom schematics the bridge pickup goes straight to the volume pot guite nearby.
     
  13. Antoon

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    I might be wrong about that part then. But I am sure I have seen it on a Tele Custom (it had one of the pots acting like a master volume). There are also quite a few images of the braided wire on the bridge PU on the net:

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    Freewheeler Tele-Afflicted

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    Ok, I was wrong and now I know :) Thanks.
     
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    It all looks consistant with mid 70's pickups to me.
     
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