Phase or "vibe"? (Sturgill Simpson)

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  1. CliffordReid

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    It took me awhile to get into as well.

    I loved the songs, and the music, but he sounded like a cross between Elton John with peanut butter stuck in his throat, and Kermit the frog. Then one day it just kinda clicked and it stopped bugging me.
     
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    I'm leaning more Vibe as well with this one. Just thought it would be fun to get some other opinions.
     
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    Aaron Lewis singing about things not being country?

    Hello Kettle, this is pot... You are black.

    Aaron Lewis is much closer to modern "bro" country than he is to real country. And this is a completely unbiased opinion. I loved Staind when I was a kid, I love Aaron lewis's solo acoustic stuff, but I hate him as a "country" artist. He takes a lot of his great songs and then ****s all over them with country cliches.

    Sturgill isn't a full on country artist anyways. it's like 75% country, and then 25% whatever other influence he may have on that particular song.

    Besides. Neither Sturgill, nor any of his fans really care about him as a "country" artist. We all just like him. He has a psychedelic feel to most of his songs, so the choice of feel/effects in that performance don't really shock me. Just leaning more psychedelic than country in his approach that night.

    But yes, sounds like a deja vibe.
     
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    Which was a brilliant track, and brilliant series btw. His albums are quite a mixed pot imo ...
     
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    Agreed. I really enjoyed the series but plans for a follow-up have been binned.
     
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    From R.G. Keens "Technology of the Univibe":

    "The Univibe, for all the hype, is a phaser or phase shifter. It's one of the earliest of the footpedal phasers, and was implemented in discrete transistors, instead of the opamps that most later phasers like the MXR Phase 90 would use."


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    Your post made me think about something. I wonder why folks need to worry about pigeonholing things into a purist's perspective? Enjoy somethin' for what it is, don't worry about what it's not. I love good blues-based rock and roll, AC/DC, Journey, Foreigner, FooFighters, 7 Mary 3, old blues, good country, jazz - anything where instruments are being played well. I like seeing performers mix it up, too - I remember seeing Garth do American Pie as an acoustic encore a lotta years back, and have enjoyed hearing Vince Gill do the variety of stuff that he performs.

    To your post, yeah - so what if something's not "pure country"? If that detracts from one's enjoyment, then perhaps broadening perspective is in order.
     
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    Right on, that was just a quick internet search. His official website listed none of his gear. I figured it might help solve the mystery.
     
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    I know. The novelty factor.
     
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    If you're talking about Laur Joamets (Li'l Joe), you are right. But, he's been gone for awhile, sadly. His original bass player is gone, too, playing with Margo Price now.

    That band was an amazing unit and a big part of the attraction to Strugill for me. Have to admit, I don't pay much attention to him anymore. :oops:
     
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    well... I can dial that sound up on probably either pedal... sturgill's playing has really advanced in the last few years... so, yeah, don't get hung up on 'which' pedal exactly... get you a phase shifter (waylon used a couple different ones) and start whanging on it... I pretty much leave a slow phase on all night... mine is kinda touch sensitive so, the harder I play, the more it effects... and super minor tuning or intonation issues get swallered up.
     
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    Do you know if he always used 4-stage phasers? Or, was there a time he used a 2-stage, like Phase 45 or DOD 201?
     
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    This is just my old, convenient memory, so highly likely I am mistaken, I thought he used mxr 90's and 100's

    When I found that out, I stopped with all the tone hunt... god, I remember buying a Boss Phaser and it had a bunch of knobs and you could get that god awful Alabama sound...

    what I notice with Waylon, when I listen close and without my 70's ears on... his phasing is pretty subtle but his playing really pushes the sound...

    If you give a listen to the Joe Walsh solo record 'you can't argue with a sick mind' he and felder are doing a similar thing...

    I built my own phaser from byoc kit and man, I've had 20 guys want to buy it... the secret? I kind of learned that waylon style and the syncopation (not sure if I'm using that correctly) with some phase... money!


    Hey, I just asked a friend who worked with waymore, what he used.. for pedals, he used a Boss Phaser in the 80's, MXR Phase 90 and a Small Stone in the 70's and a t.c. electronics chorus/flanger from the late 80's on.

    so, there you go. that feller would know fo sho.
     
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    I always thought a univibe was close to a chorus/flange, with added vibrato?
     
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    I come from punk rock. There is so much ******** involved with what’s “true punk” or not.

    Country is so similar I’m finding.

    I don’t necessarily consider Sturgill a full on country artist. But I also don’t care. You can call him pop/polka and it won’t change anything. He’s just a great artist, and I love every one of his albums. Especially since they’re all so different.
     
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    Haha well thanks!

    I do enjoy that site though. Lots of good info, just not always very accurate.
     
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    Hey, thanks. Cool info to have. I knew about the MXR and the EHX, but not the others.

    Scott
     
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    "Country"? Isn't he from Vermont?
     
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    His recent appearance on SNL with Chris Stapleton was borderline ridiculous, as far as that goes. I couldn't make out a word.
     
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    Massachusetts. Super country.
     
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