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One More Little Spruce Nylon Acoustic Guitar

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by printer2, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    I was going to drop this in with the other ones I made but realized that those builds were just thrown in with other threads. While this will not be as detailed in construction documentation as that can be found in my previous threads I wanted to show where I have been going. Yes I still have other guitars being built, I do not build one at a time into completion but tend to work on a couple at a time. I think this is because I get an idea and would rather start it than wait to get around to it again, something I do not trust myself to doing.

    The top got a little toasty in the oven. I always passed it by as the one side looked darker than the other and it was very noticeable at the join. I considered it for this project as this was to be hopefully the last iteration of the small pine guitars. On each one I learned something and wanted to try out my different ideas. The last one was the reverse fan braced top, an arm bevel and a thicker back. I am redoing the reverse fan to give something for the last one to compare to. This one will also get a more pronounced bevel. I am going to do a floating fretboard but hopefully it will be a little more refined than the last one. I think I have got the hang of bending softwood, one day I might try a Venetian.

    I thought of doing it on this one (everything and the kitchen sink) but I thought I have enough going on with this one, something left for the next one. This all started because I saw a neck blank I made up last year but decided to not use it. It has a Mahogany replacement for a neck. Very light and soft wood, I shelved it. I was going to use it for this one because it was turning out to be a guitar made from throwaway materials. But the sum seems to becoming more than the parts. The back with wings added to the lower bout, cut the center of the top out and rejoined it and it looks better. The sides bent in no time. I might go for a spruce neck again, pulled out a half 2x4 from the garage. I am about 50-50 on which neck. I am going to try and talk myself into a Walnut fretboard and bridge. A nylon string again. Usually we have washed out kiln dried walnut here, found a couple of pieces that were darker than usual. I was looking for some to use as fretboards but I think they might be better served as sides. So that is not nailed down. But what ever is with what I build.

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    Oak rosette trimmed with black fiber on baked spruce top.

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    And my aching bones have me sidelined today. The reason I am posting rather than building.
     

  2. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    Time for my arm bevel. Shaped a piece of spruce and glued it in. Glued the kerfed linings and side supports in also.

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    Hogged out most of the spruce.

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    Might even work with the fan bracing. Now I just have to figure out how to bend the top without breaking it.

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  3. FrontPU

    FrontPU Tele-Holic

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    Jul 6, 2008
    nyc
    Oh, reverse fan bracing!:rolleyes:
    Reminds me of that of Jose Yacopi.:twisted:
     

  4. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    I heard about it from from a video of Pepe Romero who owns a Miguel Rodriguez that has it. And now Taylor sort of discovered it. Interesting to know it came decades before, thanks, I wouldn't have known that.
     

  5. FrontPU

    FrontPU Tele-Holic

    516
    Jul 6, 2008
    nyc
    Oh, didn't know that MR had tried the reverse fan bracing. Yeah I can imagine that since he was not a Torres/ Hauser purist. However, I don't think that Pepe's famous MR ("Church Door") was built in the style.
     

  6. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    I looked up the Church Door guitars and I don't think they are the same one. This is the one with the reverse fan.




    I thought the top would be ready to glue on but it seems the bend in the top needs a little more persuading. Here is it with a few handy helpers, only so far you want to go before you hear a crack.


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    I was not having a great day so I thought I would go out buy a new piece of wood (my version of a new pair of shoes). I found something I never saw before, some imported stairway runners. There was one that looked interesting but one of the laminations was bent out of shape. They had no price on them, found it was on sale for about $22, I asked how much for the pretzel one.

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    They said $5 so naturally I went away happy. I originally thought of using it for some rosettes but it might make a fretboard or two. I managed to pull the linearly challenged piece of by hand.
     
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  7. FrontPU

    FrontPU Tele-Holic

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    Jul 6, 2008
    nyc
    Thank you for the valuable information!!:rolleyes::cool:
    I like and respect the Torres/Hauser style and it's one of the very ultimate building pattern, which my hero Bream exclusively loves.
    However, am fed up with seeing players and collectors laugh from their nonsense prejudice at those un-Torres guitars.
    And I have been always interested in the reverse fan brace that Yacopi and his followers (and wow even M. Rodrigues!) have done.
    Because the bridge is physically like an entrance of the power to create sound and the sound hole is an exit, so the reverse taper is more reasonable in this perspective.
    I have had chances to try some Yacopi guitars many years ago, but didn't know about its unique system then.
    Please let me know what difference you do find between your guitars built in conventional style and the new one when you complete it! :):)
     

  8. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    Gluing the top to the rim. The top is below the rim and the clamps and wedges are mating the top to the arm bevel. The top is flat other than the bevel.

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    The bevel part of the top must have still been damp. Added a little fresh glue and clamped and left for a day. Because of the curve of the bevel the clamps wanted to slip off the top. I slip pieces of sandpaper between the top and the clamp to give it some more friction.

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    I was a little short on the back's upper bout so I cut a piece from the lower bout and glued it on. You can see the variation in shading of the top with the cutoffs used for the back center seam strip.

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    The one side is darker than the other. When you sit too close to the fire you get a little toastier. Second wipe of clear poly. I normally like satin finish but I want to see how well the gloss turns out. The rosette is kind of pretty. And I was going to toss the end cuts, found another use for them.

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  9. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    May 24, 2010
    Canada
    There was some interest in the arm bevel on another site and I was asked to take a few more pictures. Twist my arm.

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