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Odd tuners

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by 1bad914, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    I ordered a set of Fender OEM tuners. Drilled the holes for the alignment pegs. Started to do a dry fit and...... IMG_4857.JPG
    ...one of these things is not like the other

    Anyone had this happen? 2 of the 4 are the right size, 4 are short. Back they go to amazon.
     

  2. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    I should have known something was wrong. The “original “ packaging looked stapled together. The worst part is they are telling me 11/30 delivery for the replacement. Lol
     

  3. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Are they staggered tuners? I never had a set myself, but I guess they vary in height.


    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/19548-a-players-guide-to-tuning-keys?page=2


    Staggered-height posts. If you have a flat headstock with six tuners in a single row—like those on a Fender—think about upgrading to tuners that have staggered-height posts. On most guitars, staggered-height tuners eliminate the need for string trees, and this too can improve tuning stability—especially on guitars with whammy bars. Staggered tuners typically have posts in three sizes: strings 1 and 2 take the shortest posts, strings 3 and 4 take the medium ones, and strings 5 and 6 use the tallest.
     

  4. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    They were not sold as that. Hrrmmm
     

  5. mrpants

    mrpants TDPRI Member

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    Staggered height in my experience are usually 2/2/2 with the high strings getting the lowest posts. The idea is to increase the downforce at the nut without having to use string trees. I've heard of 3/3 configurations, but not 4 long, 2 short. The Sperzels I have on my strat range in height about the same as what you have pictured there but with an intermediate height for the d/g strings.
     

  6. BryMelvin

    BryMelvin Tele-Afflicted

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    What is that neck. It appears you have a staggered set and a too thick neck. tuners.jpg
     

  7. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    It just looks that way. It is a normal neck. IMG_4860.JPG
    IMG_4859.JPG
     

  8. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    It must a staggered set like that pictured above.
     

  9. mrpants

    mrpants TDPRI Member

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    Dude... the tops of the posts aren't even the same shape. That's not staggered. That's just a screw up.
     
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  10. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    I saw that right away. Thought the same thing.
     

  11. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    Then I look on Sweetwaters site and see this. IMG_4861.JPG
     

  12. TenaciousP

    TenaciousP Tele-Meister

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    On the Sweetwater site, the description says:

    Fender American Standard Series Tuning Machines Features:
    • Set of 6
    • Chrome Finish, Staggered-height Array
    • Fender American Standard Series Tuning Machines
    • Used on the American Standard and American Series guitars
    So it appears that they are staggered like that purposefully. It does seem weird though.:confused:
     

  13. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    I went back to my Amazon order and I got exactly what I ordered. The very buried description states they are staggered. I guess I did not need the OEM string trees. I will still use them. Sorry for the mix up. My fault.
     

  14. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    OBTW The tops of the pegs are different on purpose.
     

  15. reddy2300

    reddy2300 TDPRI Member

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    I bought a set on Reverb that were just like that. I was a bit tweaked at first. Then, I looked into it and that's exactly the way they're supposed to be. Mine were 2/4, also.

    BTW, in the one pic you posted, the peg that is lower has the washer upside down. I couldn't let that go. Bugged me. Lol. Now I feel better.
     
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  16. Ronkirn

    Ronkirn Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

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    It's not uncommon to find thicker headstocks these days... the additional mass stabilizes the headstock against energy dispersion as the string vibrates, this results in improved sustain, and a louder output, generally regarded as improved tone...

    a small price to pay for the shorter looking tuner posts..

    Ron Kirn
     
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  17. 1bad914

    1bad914 Tele-Meister

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    You are correct. I was about half asleep when I did that. Now that I know these are correct as is I will finish my dry fit. Take it all off and put the finish on.
     
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