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Nocaster - To Refin or Not to Refin

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by bienteveo, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    Greetings Forumites,

    I have here a little beast of a No-caster in need of a refin. Or not. That's the question.

    It looks like a Minwax job. Sanding would be bad.

    Can this be rescued? If so, who would you recommend?

    Thanks!

    Richard

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  2. Dismalhead

    Dismalhead Poster Extraordinaire

    Age:
    54
    Feb 16, 2014
    Auburn, California
    I'd refinish it, probably using a stripper and a scraper and then sanding. Others on here will probably say to leave it be and use it as is.
     

  3. Zillinois

    Zillinois Friend of Leo's

    Feb 25, 2009
    Seattle
    Refin it, it couldn't look much worse.
     

  4. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    Medic! I think I'm hit!
     

  5. Troubleandahalf

    Troubleandahalf Tele-Holic

    781
    Jun 2, 2011
    Austin, TX
    I think it wants to be Surf Green. I know I do...
     

  6. dan1952

    dan1952 Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    64
    Jun 24, 2004
    Anderson, IN
    Is this an actual original No Caster?
     

  7. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    Do you mean that you want to be surf green or that you want the guitar to be surf green? Or both?
     

  8. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    Yes, it is an actual 1951 No-caster.
     

  9. Troubleandahalf

    Troubleandahalf Tele-Holic

    781
    Jun 2, 2011
    Austin, TX

    Just the guitar. It's not easy being green...
     

  10. Lobomov

    Lobomov Friend of Leo's

    Jul 15, 2013
    Europa
    I actually like it a lot as it is ... but then again, I've alway been a sucker for guitars looking like someone sawed of a piece of their living room table.
     

  11. t.e.l.e.

    t.e.l.e. Tele-Meister

    117
    Mar 14, 2013
    Aaah!!! Don't be crazy and paint this holy madonna surf green! Let there be rock!
     

  12. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    Don't worry. Nobody's painting anything green!

    If there were some refinishing genius who could remove the Minwax without having to resort to sanding, and who could then restore it to 1951 butterscotch, and give it a touch of 16th century patina.... that I might do.
     

  13. Major Gruber

    Major Gruber Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 24, 2012
    Colombes France
    Sanding problem

    Looking at the size of the pickguard's on the horn and the color on the wood, I think you have exactly the same problem that I have with my 1951 Telecaster. Mine has been sanded so bad to get rid of refin on top of original blond, that it has already lost around 1,5 millimeters of body thickness. And my luthier told me that this 1972 refin (chestnut?) is so deep in the tender ash that sanding it properly would make it lose another millimeter. So I decided not to refin it.
     

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  14. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    I'll take that as a compliment!
     

  15. Major Gruber

    Major Gruber Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 24, 2012
    Colombes France

    The first thing should be to take it to a good luthier and discuss with him if it's worth it or no. If there's a chance the guitar can look like it was, I think it's worth it.
     

  16. ScottJPatrick

    ScottJPatrick Tele-Afflicted

    May 12, 2011
    Stirling, Scotland.
    Clive Brown in England is one of the finest restorers on the planet, wouldn't be too difficult to just send the body. If it's a '51 nocaster you want to do it right.
     

  17. Major Gruber

    Major Gruber Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 24, 2012
    Colombes France

  18. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires
    Lovely grain on that guitar Major Gruber.

    Yes, that's it. I've never done any measurements. But the view with the pickguard removed shows evidence of an even older, and even more primitive refin. Looks like creosote!

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  19. bienteveo

    bienteveo TDPRI Member

    45
    Dec 4, 2012
    Buenos Aires

  20. Major Gruber

    Major Gruber Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 24, 2012
    Colombes France
    :lol:and for that, the best are top loading and factory bigsby!
     

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