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Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by London John, Mar 5, 2014.

  1. TheWizard333

    TheWizard333 Banned

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    I agree some of the 52 reissues have too much of a orangey mustard color instead of yellow blonde. How did fender get that so wrong?
     

  2. magnaton

    magnaton TDPRI Member

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    Apr 20, 2011
    RI, USA
    Congrats on your purchase! It's been a fascinating read. Was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing your collection with us? A '59 blonde 335 is one of my all time favorites, and I can't help wonder what else you have at your fingertips? Pics would be very much appreciated, but would love to hear about it either way.

    Cheers!
     

  3. London John

    London John Banned

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    Mar 5, 2014
    London
    Hi Magnaton,

    Well, I'm as much an amp guy as a guitar guy, early Marshall's being my thing. I'm in Bogota this week for my sins, but will post some more pictures when I'm back in London and have my main computer.

    Guitars are:

    '58 Les Paul;
    '59 Les Paul;
    '55 Strat;
    '62 Strat;
    '59 335 (blonde);
    '59 175 (blonde);
    '59 345;
    '52 Tele;
    '39 000-28;
    '46 D28;
    '63 Hummingbird;
    '59 355 (thinline, blonde).

    I only have a few pictures on this computer, some Marshall's, a couple of the 335 given you like 'em and the '62 Strat.

    Cheers,
    John

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  4. TheWizard333

    TheWizard333 Banned

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    What a nice vintage collection. Just add a tele with rosewood and your good.
     

  5. slimdave

    slimdave TDPRI Member

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    Mar 8, 2013
    Barcelona
    John that's a stunning collection! Probably the best of the best. Cheers.
     

  6. Rhubarb Red

    Rhubarb Red Tele-Meister

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    Jun 14, 2007
    Switzerland
    Hi John


    caaaaan't wait to see the pix, especially that from a '59 ES-355 in blonde/natural!!!!!!!


    regards



    Mike
     

  7. tele53

    tele53 Tele-Meister

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    May 28, 2004
    The "Fender Telecaster - The detailed Story of America's Senior Solid Body Electric Guitar " by A.R Duchossoir states that bridge plates numbers from 1950 to 1953 should be 4 digits under the 6000s stamped on bridge plate.

    You can see a list of numbers associated to dates and can determine month and dates.

    The dates of body and neck can be different.

    I can date mine in december 1953 because its n° 2297 and a batch of Teles were made in december from n° 2961 to 3020.

    6000 Teles in 3 years makes an average of 2000 per year knowing that the production increased probably in 53 compared to 52.

    Hope that helps.

    PS this book is fantastic!
     

  8. dsginzen

    dsginzen Tele-Meister

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    Jan 20, 2014
    Kokomo, Indiana

  9. magnaton

    magnaton TDPRI Member

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    Apr 20, 2011
    RI, USA
    Absolutely phenomenal! All the best to you, and thanks so much for sharing.
     

  10. old crow

    old crow TDPRI Member

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    Feb 22, 2009
    Vantage
    Hey John, tell us about that Rangemaster . Does it take you to the Rory land ?
    Thanks for sharing pics and info, what a stellar collection. The best of the best !
     

  11. Wally

    Wally Telefied Ad Free Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Lubbock, TX
    tele53, FEnder serial numbers can be very inaccurate. You might want to open that Duchossoir book to page 75 adn read the section on 'The Original SEries: 1950-1953". Duchossoir correctly notes that one cannot take serial numbers as a firm guide on dating a Telecaster. Those plates were not used in a sequential manner...they came out of a parts bin of plates that were randomly inventoried in and randomly used. For instance, he notes on that page that a 1953 Telecaster's number might fall in the 3,000 range while a 53-early '54 might carry a number in the 2,000 range. Dating is better and more accurately done with neck, body, and component dates, ime.
    For instance, on pages 76, there is a April of 1954 TElecaster with a serial number of 2741 and there is a April of 1954 Esquire right below it with a serial number of 2949. There is a October of 1952 Esquire with a serial number of 2580...higher than your #2291 of ??December 1953??? even though it was built supposedly a year earlier. Lots of inconsistencies because they were not putting those things out in sequential order with regard to serial numbers/plates.
     

  12. burtwangcaster

    burtwangcaster Tele-Holic

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    May 5, 2012
    buckley,michigan
    I just got a chance to play a SB 1959 ES-335 yesterday at Elderly's. What a thrill.
    John, your Blond is as good as it gets. You are a lucky gent.:eek::D
     

  13. London John

    London John Banned

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    Mar 5, 2014
    London
    In tone yes, in playing ability.....sadly no.

    I usually use it with PAF'd guitars or with a Strat and Vox.

    They're very easy to make if you're OK with a soldering iron, simple parts that are generally available these days.
     

  14. London John

    London John Banned

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    Mar 5, 2014
    London
    Funny how things happen on the amp front.

    A 6 hour road trip today to collect a very early Marshall 18 watt, late '65. I really, really dig these amps and have a bit of 18 watt OCD. I love the corner/slant logo, and the wooden foot-switch with an unpainted plexiglass block logo cover. It's the earliest 1x12 I've seen, so happy days.

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  15. London John

    London John Banned

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    Mar 5, 2014
    London
    BWC, you're right, those '59 335's are something else. They'll do everything a 'burst will do and so much more. A good Tele and a good PAF'd 335 and you've got all bases covered.

    A 335 through an EF86 circuit AC15 is a match made in heaven.

    Cheers,
    John
     

  16. London John

    London John Banned

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    Mar 5, 2014
    London
    Hey Wally, my '52 is serial 4808.....so they're all over the place.
     

  17. Wally

    Wally Telefied Ad Free Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Lubbock, TX
    John, you are so right about that. THat #4808 for '52 is joined by a #4782 from September of '52. #4817 is from July '53. #4902 is from November of '52. AS noted by many, those serial numbers don't mean a thing on a FEnder until whenever they started using the Letter for the decade and the first digit for the year...sometime in the latter part of 1976. Adnd..those letter/numbers are not written in stone, either. Same for Gibson from 1963 through 1975. IF you don't know what you are looking at, the serial number might totally mislead you. I have an ES-345 that can be a '66, a '69, or any of 3 years in the early '70's if one were to go by the serial number. Details tell one that it is a '66....and I bought it new in June of '67. With Gibson, since they went to the 8 digit nubmer in 1977, you can tell the year, the day it was stamped, and the location of the build.
     

  18. Bluebird

    Bluebird TDPRI Member

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    Jun 12, 2003
    Canada
    I have a'53 Esquire in the low 5000s.
     

  19. Rhubarb Red

    Rhubarb Red Tele-Meister

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    Jun 14, 2007
    Switzerland
    Hi John


    can you provide us with a pic of your ES-355 '59 blonde?

    Never seen one, never heard of one... or was it a typo (ES-345)?


    very kind regards


    Mike
     

  20. London John

    London John Banned

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    Mar 5, 2014
    London
    I'm in the country, I'll take a photo when back in London.

    Meanwhile, here's another '59.

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