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NGD - Wildwood 64 AVRI

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by ladave, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Crobbins

    Crobbins Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    Meiners Oaks CA.
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  2. sonny wolf

    sonny wolf Friend of Leo's

    Jun 16, 2009
    austin texas
    The 3 ply pickguards were not white from 1959 to 1965.I have seen many color pictures of them taken during that period that prove it.They were a faint grayish/greenish color.As they aged they yellowed thus appearing even greener over time.If you think about it,when white ages it turns cream and gradually yellow...white cannot turn green because of age.So there had to be a slight greenish tint to start with that got greener with age as it yellowed.
    Here is some photo evidence.This a Fender catalogue picture of their brand new guitars.Notice the contrast of the white knobs against the slightly grayer/greenish tinted pickguards:


    Check out John Lennon's Strat(granted it was a few years old in the picture):
    1961-fender-stratocaster-guitar-john-lennon-beatles (1).jpg
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  3. rze99

    rze99 Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Feb 26, 2014
    South London UK

    Thanks for that post and pics.

    great Lennon snap haven't seen that one before. That Strat is gorgeous.

  4. sdd28772

    sdd28772 Tele-Meister

    Apr 13, 2009
    Those Jazzmaster's My fav player after the Tele of course.
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  5. whoanelly15

    whoanelly15 Tele-Meister

    Aug 30, 2017

    Just saw this go up - I swear it wasn't there even as recently as yesterday. But for anyone else who was so inspired by our friend, the OP's awesome purchase, this sure seems like an awesome guitar for the price.

    I have an AVRI 64 so for me, it's too similar, even with the subtle differences in fretboard radius, fret height, twisted tele pickups and color. But good lord, if $ was no object, I wouldn't be able to lay off of this.
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  6. tce63

    tce63 Tele-Holic

    Jan 18, 2013
    That one also looks great

  7. Jules78

    Jules78 Tele-Holic

    Dec 12, 2016
    Northern VA
    I have 17 years experience in digital photographic reproduction. Ive worked on color calibration, color scanning and reproduction and color conversion in various color spaces.
    Trying to prove color with photos is problematic. Digital photography did not exist when those photos were taken. So those were actual hard copy photos that are probably faded themselves since they are so old. The photos, likely faded, were scanned at some point and that results in its own color discrepancies. Then you are viewing them on your monitor/phone which is introducing more color errors.

    So when it comes to photos as evidence of the color of the pickguards, Im gonna have to disagree with you and go with the people who have seen those guitars over the years.
    What Ron posted here about color is 100% correct. He worked in photography for many years and has seen those pickguards with his own eyes over the years. Ive never seen one of these pickguards in real life but I will trust the people who have over an old scanned photo. Also the chemistry of it makes perfect sense.

    This has already been argued over before in the above thread so I dont see much point in discussing it further. Agree to disagree I suppose. Those who are curious can make their own decisions.

  8. Mike Eskimo

    Mike Eskimo Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 9, 2008
    The key aspecst in the old "mint" pickguards was the black layer and the translucence of the white.

    Ever see a vintage tele with its original 1 ply guard look even remotely green ?
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  9. whoanelly15

    whoanelly15 Tele-Meister

    Aug 30, 2017

    Had to share this because Greg savages this guitar, but the new posting is already gone. These seem to sell as quickly as they can stock em. Beautiful guitars. Hope my path crosses with one someday.

  10. rze99

    rze99 Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Feb 26, 2014
    South London UK
    Beautiful guitar
    A minor curiosity for me that I can't stop myself mentioning is, why did Fender make this with neck pickup adjustment screws? It is period incorrect. Same as the pick guard without a neck end adjustment slot. Does that assume a neck pocket holed out for humbucker under there? Are they just using up parts?!

  11. roknfnrol

    roknfnrol Tele-Meister

    Nov 16, 2004
    Louisville, KY
    So beautiful!!! (except for mounting the neck pickup on the pickguard, F that!)

  12. DanDII

    DanDII Tele-Meister

    Nov 2, 2015
    WW sold through 10+ vintage white '64s in a week. I think a lot of folks found this run attractive.
    Most of the necks fell in my 'Goldilocks' (.85-.87 at the 1st) zone and were lightweight to boot.

    i hesitated for a day and they were toast. Picked up a lightweight '72 Custom with a 'Goldilocks' approved neck but would still like to find a'64...

    Congrats on the new axe!

  13. crossroader

    crossroader Tele-Afflicted Gold Supporter

    Sep 24, 2004
    Endicott, NY
    That's a beautiful Tele - I wouldn't change a thing on it!

    I have a Thinskin Jazzmaster from a run that Dave's had a few years ago. It's one of my all-time favorite guitars.

    Enjoy that Tele!!

  14. Heyitsmejoeg

    Heyitsmejoeg TDPRI Member

    Jan 3, 2015
    Wow. If it play as good as it look you got an awesome spankin’ plank
    Rock that tele !!!!!!!!

  15. Frenchie63

    Frenchie63 TDPRI Member

    Jan 28, 2017
    North Wales
    When Wild wood did the FSR "thin skin" 62s 10 years ago, they gave you a choice of pickguard. Pity they aren't doing it with this run.

    Your 64 is stunning mind. If it were mine, I would probably screw the neck pickup to the body and add a 1 ply white pickguard.

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  16. wyclif

    wyclif Tele-Afflicted

    Nov 29, 2011
    That photo of John Lennon playing a Strat is rare, and it's epic! That had to have been during the studio sessions for Revolver because it was during those sessions that Fender gave John and George matching sonic blue Strats.

    I think at the time of the photo, that Strat was new. The headstock looks just like that of an early '60s Strat, which makes sense.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2017
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  17. Frenchie63

    Frenchie63 TDPRI Member

    Jan 28, 2017
    North Wales
    I believe the matching sonic blue Stratocaster's were purchased by the Beatles roadie Mal Evans. According to Andy Babiuk in his Beatles gear book, Georges has a neck date of December 61. John's is currently on the missing list but it was a slab board 61/62 model.

  18. Lefty Addams

    Lefty Addams Tele-Afflicted

    May 6, 2012
    That's one great colour, and rare with that shade of cream with the RW imo, very nice!!

  19. wyclif

    wyclif Tele-Afflicted

    Nov 29, 2011
    These went so fast that I missed seeing any listed for sale on Wildwood's site. Anyone know what the price is on these?


  20. logans_tele

    logans_tele TDPRI Member

    Oct 12, 2015
    Tulsa, OK
    FYI... these are back in stock WITHOUT the pickup mounted neck pickup. Interesting.....

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