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NGD: Ron Kirn Ol' Blackie

Discussion in 'Other T-Types and Partscasters' started by Wolfhaus, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Wolfhaus

    Wolfhaus TDPRI Member

    Aug 28, 2016
    Portland, OR
    Hello! I recently took delivery of this beauty.

    This is my first tele. I must say I have never played anything better than this. The wait was well worth it. I originally wanted the vintage 3-barrel bridge, but I am thrilled with this Rio Grande stainless steel for a more modern look and intonation purposes. I am also possibly an ex-strat player, so the six saddle configuration is a more familiar concept. The neck is a Fat C profile. I don't have any measurements, but it is probably just about an inch at the 1st fret and a little thicker at the 12th. The body is 1-piece swamp ash. I don't know the weight but it's the lightest guitar I own. Probably 7ish lbs. if I had to guess.

    The bad news is this thing hates my apartment. Acoustically it sounds great, but plugged in it is almost unplayable. I have tried every outlet, every room, every playable orientation, turned off circuits, dimmer lights, computer monitors, TVs, fluorescent lights. Nothing eliminated the hum except for if I hold the thing upside down over my head in one spot in my living room. When I took it to the rehearsal spot and plugged her in, the glory was unleashed. Quiet as a mouse. Unfortunately, I am not at the rehearsal spot the majority of the time and do most of my playing at home. I guess I will have to think about some noiseless options if I want to do any home recording, or get one of those Teeter inversion tables to help get to the sweet spot.

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  2. Dingbat

    Dingbat Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

    Apr 12, 2012
    Eugene, Oregon
    Congrats on a beauty! That fat neck looks glorious and just channel Hendrix when you play it over your head in the living room:)
    If you ever need a break from it just send it down the road to Eugene and I'll look after it.
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  3. static111

    static111 Tele-Meister

    Aug 29, 2009
    Aiel Waste
    These are sweet guitars!!! Ron knows his stuff!
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  4. RoscoeElegante

    RoscoeElegante Friend of Leo's

    Feb 19, 2015
    Congrats on the classy score.

    You're using the same amp, pedals, and cables at home and when playing out, I assume.

    So, at home, the Electro-Harmonix Hum-Debugger and/or power conditioners might help. Also, your phone might be a culprit. Shielding within the guitar can be enough to be decisive. Less/the wrong type/misapplied stuff could be just enough vulnerability within the guitar to team up with power problems at home. Have you had the guitar's connections/solders checked?

    If you're in an apt. building, then what your neighbors are plugging in/operating might be a factor/cause.

    If "home" is a house, have an electrician check things/run a dedicated line you'll use for your amp.

    Got power lines, a power station, a transmission tower near home? Might be little you can do about it, if so.

    Weirdest version of this I've run into: When playing at home I sat; when out, I stood. When sitting, that put a little cable torque and angle on the jack, and that was enough to create problems. Fixed the jack's connections, and the problem went away.

    Good luck! I'm sure this is very frustrating.
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  5. rdonahue

    rdonahue Tele-Meister

    Apr 21, 2013
    Lancaster, PA
    Congrats on the new guitar. Those Kirn's are gorgeous.
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  6. reckless meanie

    reckless meanie Tele-Meister

    Jul 24, 2011
    Madras, OR
    Then you can send it over to Madras. Those guitars to second to none.
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  7. jwp333

    jwp333 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Jul 17, 2013
    Richmond, VA
    Have you got one of those outlet testers with the led lights to check your outlets at the apartment just to make sure it'd wired up safe and grounded? Otherwise, maybe your neighbors are doing some strange stuff?
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  8. Wolfhaus

    Wolfhaus TDPRI Member

    Aug 28, 2016
    Portland, OR
    Thanks for the suggestions! I have a power strip with a ground LED that lights up. Maybe some sort of power conditioner would help a bit.

  9. Wolfhaus

    Wolfhaus TDPRI Member

    Aug 28, 2016
    Portland, OR
    Maybe I will take her on a tour of the state.

  10. Blue Bill

    Blue Bill Poster Extraordinaire

    Feb 15, 2014
    Wow Wolf, that is a beauty, I'm so jealous. RK is a hero around here.

    Have you tried going to the fuse box and tried shutting each breaker, one at a time? Plug in your amp so you can hear it, then try each breaker, until you find the circuit that is causing the buzz. Then, maybe you can isolate the cause of the hummmmm. Do your other guitars have this issue? You may need to look into that Electro-Harmonix Hum Debugger

    Welcome to the forum, nice avatar.

    Or you could mail the guitar to me, I'll have it fixed up in a year or two :D
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  11. Wolfhaus

    Wolfhaus TDPRI Member

    Aug 28, 2016
    Portland, OR
    Thanks Blue Bill. I did try each breaker that I could. Not many options in my small place. It's probably just an unfortunate location. I am right next to a laundry room and have neighbors above and next door as well.
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  12. P Thought

    P Thought Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free + Supporter

    Coos Bay's nice this time of year. . .your guitar's a beauty!
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  13. Lefty Addams

    Lefty Addams Tele-Afflicted

    May 6, 2012
    Looks like another quality Tele from Ron Kirn, congrats!!
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  14. pondcaster

    pondcaster Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 29, 2010
    Tryon, NC
    Your first tele?

    Started near the top, didn't you...!

    Congrats, many years and good health to you both.
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  15. jwp333

    jwp333 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Jul 17, 2013
    Richmond, VA
    The laundry room could be the cause with Dc motors in the machines?
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  16. Teledelphia

    Teledelphia Tele-Holic

    Mar 12, 2008
    That's sweet. Thinking about an Old Blackie myself someday. Couple questions: what color is it (looks like butterscotch blond but pictures can be deceiving)?
    What are the Kirn pu's like? Re: your hum issues, I live in an old house with old wiring and all manor of florescent lighting, etc. which is like the hum capital of Philadelphia. I actually play down in my basement which of course has a florescent light fixture. I had almost sworn off single coil pu's but I bought an EHX Hum Debugger and the thing actually works. It's not a noise gate and I have no idea how it works but it does kill the hum. It does effect your tone a bit but it's minimal and worth the trade-off IMO.
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  17. Wolfhaus

    Wolfhaus TDPRI Member

    Aug 28, 2016
    Portland, OR
    Yeah, the finish looks different in almost every shot, but it is the Butterscotch. It is lighter than I expected, but should change over time. As far as the pickups, I am not an expert on teles but they seem to hit the mark. They definitely have met my expectations as far as my idea of how a tele should sound. I opted for the 4-way switch and believe all 4 positions could be very useful. Still trying to feel it out a bit. I have done some rearranging of things in the apartment and have found a comfortable, less noisy spot. I am just enjoying everything about it, even the challenge of eliminating the noise:)!

    I have been watching videos of the Hum Debugger and am considering it if all else fails. I have a Tripp Lite Isobar on the way to see if that may help at all. If not, a decent surge suppressor is not a bad thing to have anyway.

  18. riff

    riff Tele-Meister

    May 15, 2010
    Springfield, MO
    Great looking Kirn! Love mine. It's a great player, looker, and sounds great too.
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  19. John Owen

    John Owen Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Jan 29, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Great looking guitar! I bet it plays and sounds great too. Congrats.
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  20. bsman

    bsman Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 8, 2003
    Santa Clara
    What a beauty! My Kirn (barnbuster) also has the fat C neck, and I find it very comfortable. Oddly, it is also one of my quietest single-coil guitars.
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