NGD- Classic Vibe Custom

Discussion in 'Squier Tele Forum' started by leftfoot1381, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. leftfoot1381

    leftfoot1381 TDPRI Member

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    Had the itch for a new guitar and didn’t want to spend a ton of money. I was really wanting a bound tele so it narrowed my choices considerably. Ended up picking up a brand new Squier CVC. First off the guitar is beautiful. The fit and finish of the body is excellent and the playability and the fit and finish of the neck are excellent. I had heard all the stories about the necks being super thin and the pickups sounding weak. The neck is certainly thin, much thinner than my Nashville Deluxe tele, but it plays excellent. The pickups sound really good to my ear but definitely have a lot of treble to the point where I have the time knob rolled off to a little less than half. The body is also quite a bit thinner than the other tele I have and the guitar is considerably lighter, I think 7lbs 6oz, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Here’s a pic just because:
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    Thats a beauty ,love the bindings !
     
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  3. vanr

    vanr Tele-Afflicted

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    Nice. I remember playing one and thinking it was awful bright sounding.
     
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    grolan1 Friend of Leo's

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    Had one, wish I had it back. Everything was awesome on the guitar but the pickups... swapped them out for TS and much better. All of my other Squier's pickups are fine but the custom was just too thin sounding (bright) for me. But they are great guitars - congrats!
     
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    Love them , I have one like this , and the black one with black headstock.
    The neck pu is one of the better ones , IMO
    I prefer the bridge pu of the CV 50's.
    It's even better than SD Broadcaster and the like. IMO...
    Enjoy your guitar , it's a really nice model !
     
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    Chunkocaster Poster Extraordinaire

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    Congrats, nice looking tele.
     
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  7. Brian J.

    Brian J. Tele-Afflicted

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    Sweet guitar, I put a strat neck on mine because I wanted to do a Clapton Blind Faith guitar, love mine.
     
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    shupe13 Tele-Holic

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    Congrats!

    Sent from my REVVLPLUS C3701A using Tapatalk
     
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  9. Fluddman

    Fluddman Tele-Meister

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    These guitars are great looking and they always catch my eye in a guitar shop. Nice one!
     
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    Deathray Tele-Meister

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    Great looking Tele, HNGD!
     
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  11. soulman969

    soulman969 Telefied Ad Free Member

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    The body thickness of both a CVC and a Nashville Deluxe should be 1.75" + or - 1/16".
     
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    Fendereedo Friend of Leo's

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    Hngd! Great choice.
     
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    TwangerWannabe Tele-Meister

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    Great looking CVC there! 7.6lbs is perfect. I've always lusted after a double-bound Tele, but like you, didn't want to plunk down the cost of admission of a USA model, and the MIJ '62 models have really gone up in price and don't pop up often in the used market.

    I really don't think the neck is "thin" per se. Front to back is possibly on the thinner side I guess, but my tase is the "shoulders" are not very full, giving it a thinner feel. Earlier tonight I swapped necks and installed a Classic 50's maple neck (poly finish). For $199 I think it's a killer value. The guitar was killer before. The new neck just took it to a different level.
     
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    I can tell you for sure the Nashville is thicker. Maybe I’ll measure them when I get home. I am thinking about sending it back tho. There is nothing wrong with it, it sounds and plays great. Just something that I can’t explain that just makes me not sure I want to keep it. But thanks for all the comments, it is definitely a a beauty.
     
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  15. soulman969

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    I have a Nashville Deluxe body and two Classic Vibe Custom bodies I've measured with digital calipers.

    The Nashville measures 1.83" in thickness whereas both CVCs measure 1.78" so the variance between them is less than 1/16" as expected but it's possible there could be more difference between yours. I can't say for certain but some of that could be attributable to thicker poly finish on the Nashville. The Nashville is a 2006 whereas the CVCs are a 2009 and a 2014.

    It's possible more recent models are thinner to shave some weight but I wouldn't think even 1/8" would change it all that much. Mine are all fairly close to the same weight (roughly 7lbs 6ozs + or - 2ozs) as well since all three have identical necks but different pickups and some hardware. But the CVC neck is most definitely shallower and different in profile than a Nashville Deluxe neck and the width at the nut may also be slightly narrower. Specs say 1.625" for a CVC and 1.65" for a Nashville Deluxe. Mine measure 1.65"-1.67".

    But the bottom line is if that guitar doesn't speak to you and say "I'm a keeper" then by all means don't. The world is filled with lots of others to try. Happy hunting.
     
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    I just measured it with digital calipers. The Nashville was 1.840 and the CVC was 1.739. I was expecting a bigger difference so you weren’t far off. I think some of it is the edges of the Nashville are rounded where as the CVC are squared off. I think the rounded edges make it appear to be thicker. Either way not a huge difference. The Nashville neck is definitely thicker and probably my favorite profile I have come across so far. I think the Nashville is a 2005 model and the CVC is brand new. I played it tonight and It is really a nice guitar. I guess it really just comes down to the fact that I feel that my Nashville tele is good enough I don’t need another tele, but I think I could benefit from a better strat than the one I have. It has kinda come down to either keep it, or send it back and get a Robert Cray Strat. I hate liking so many guitars and not being able to buy them all, but at least there are plenty of nice ones out there to choose from.
     
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    I'm thinking your measurements confirm the same mine have and I suspect the thicker poly finish on the Nashville contributes to the added thickness. That and the binding on the CVC seem to be the major differences between them other than the body wood itself but that shouldn't be a factor.

    The reason I have 2006 Nashville necks on both CVCs is it's a very comfortable neck and a unique profile I have not found on any other Tele I've played. To me it feels like a slightly less chunky Baja neck. Fender specs say it's a "C" but it's not like any other "C" profile I've ever played and there is definitely less shoulder than a "C" profile over the first 5-6 frets. Then it becomes a deeper "C".

    If you haven't already played one and like a "beefier" neck the Robert Cray Strat will give you that along with some custom voiced CS Texas Special pickups. It's a much different "feel" than the Nashville neck and the CVC neck. Very much a chunky "C" probably about .90" at the 1st fret so a little deeper and with more shoulder than the Nashville neck. There's a lot of "grip" on that one.

    I just picked one up used in mint condition that may have been a store demo but it obviously had been played very little and still had all of it's case candy and hang tag. My guess is most don't want a Strat with no trem whereas the only Strat I would ever own is a "hardtail" and that's one is one of the few Fender has ever offered since the '70s. I'm not really a Strat guy but the deal was too good to pass up.

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    One other thing just dawned on me. Some players don't like the Nashville switching because it eliminates the normal Tele neck/bridge combination in favor of the five typical Strat settings.

    If you haven't already modified yours and you would like to have the typical Tele option of the neck/bridge pickup combination on your Nashville you can accomplish it by wiring the middle pickup separately to a push/pull tone pot and replacing the stock switch.

    You can wire a 3-way switch the way you would typically wire any Tele and you can simply add the middle pickup to any of the other settings. If you still want middle pickup only than use a 4-way leaving one position un-wired as a kill position for the neck and bridge pickups.

    Just a though that can eliminate the need for another Tele just to get the neck/bridge combination.
     
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    That’s beautiful guitar. I have a strat with a trem on it but I actually would prefer a hardtail. The Cray strat has pretty much everything I want in a strat but I’ve never actually got to play one. I love the look of a strat, and I like playing them, but I have a hard time getting one to sound the way I want. Especially on the bridge pickup. That being said I am still deciding on what to do. It would be different if the CVC wasn’t such a nice guitar, especially for the money.
     
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  20. soulman969

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    Long ago.....like even before I began posting here, I swore two guitars I would never own were an LP and a Strat. Now I'm a liar twice over.

    I've always played Teles. My very first electric was a Tele and the second was a Strat. Sold the Strat but kept the Tele and have owned many more since but until this one never another Strat. Not in 50 years.

    My objective upon posting here was to cover as many bases with a Tele as I could so I bought and modified a few while buying and selling a couple I didn't bond with. But eventually a began to discover that while Teles can be the true chameleons of the guitar world they still have their own peculiar limitations.

    I couldn't make a Thinline Tele with P90s work for me but found an LP and a hollowbody Casino that could.

    I had a Tele I converted to a Nashville with custom Onamac pickups. Loved the tone but never liked that modern "C" neck. Too shallow. So after several years of searching out yet another 2006 Nashville neck I threw in the towel in favor of the Robert Cray Strat. For the price and it's condition it was too sweet a deal to pass up so I removed the custom pickups and swapped the Tele for the Strat and I'm satisfied.

    It's the neck pickup and the #2 and #4 pickup positions that are what I use anyway. The bridge only or middle only don't work for me either. It's the funkier "quack" sounds I'm after along with the bell like chime of the neck pickup. For other stuff I'd rather play a Tele.

    IME the CVCs hit way above average. Even bone stock they are an excellent guitar provided one can live with the neck. I couldn't or maybe I should say I chose not to but it wasn't easy to come by two 2006 Nashville necks to replace them. It took about three years and it had been another three waiting to find another for the Nashville conversion I did.

    My son-in-law has one on a Tele he built and I've asked him to sell me that neck if he ever decides to sell the Tele and I will buy him a neck neck for it. In fact I'll do a neck swap with him whenever he decides he's rather have a different one and I'll find or build another Tele to use it on. For me they are that unique and extremely comfortable for my thumb up style.
     
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