New LP/Tele Hybrid Idea - need input

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  1. crazydave911

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    Not being a Debbie Downer here but buying a neck does not constitute a scratch build. Were you to want to do so you could have the scale length anything you like and I would be among the first to help :)
     
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    Heh, all right, so it's my first body from scratch :D

    I haven't written off the idea of making necks just yet, but Mr. Kirn seems to like using someone else's necks just fine so I'm taking a page from his book to start out.

    Once I have the shape down, I'll build the neck and definitely be grateful for any help you can toss my way :)
     
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    Anytime friend ;),pretty much my favorite part

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    So, I've decided i really don't like poplar :D couple tearout issues,and it burned up a bearing on a brand new top bearing bit. I'll have to spend a fair amount of time sanding the shape to where i want it before roundover.

    What do you think, 3/8 round over? 20190203_220053.jpg
     
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    Update: hogged out pickup cavities then routed, notice the bottom humbucker route is off - double-stick tape moved on me while routing the cavities. Guess this one's going to be a pickguard guitar!

    3/8 roundover looks and feels great! It's so awesome to go from blank to body! Now to figure out the neck route and control cavities.

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    Any ideas on control routing? I'm going PRS-style 3-way toggle, 1v1t. I could make a big 72 Deluxe-style Pickguard. Thoughts?

    Also, I had my kids pick out the color, so this will be a baby blue. Should be interesting with baby blue body, black pickguard/pickups, and a yellow neck.
     
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    Thanks, Freeman! Both are most helpful.

    Would it be better to try and fill/reroute spots I've messed up on pickup cavities, or would a pick guard do the job passably?
     
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    That depends on the finish you will be using, how bad the damage is, whether you like pick guards or not. I don't use pick guards, so that isn't an option for me, and I know that most of the finishes I use will just make a splice look worse. However I have done that a couple of times and if anyone asks I just say "router bobble". Here is an example - a little router chip out when I was doing the binding channel. Its under the binding right at the end inside the horn. I chiseled a rectangular section out and fit a piece of maple in to it, but as you can see the glue seam stands out pretty badly

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    Oh, I have to correct myself - this particular guitar did get a pick guard
     
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    Great! This one will be a solid color finish, so I could pretty easily glue and clamp some thin shims etc in, and it would stay more or less hidden with the right preparation.

    As far as pickguards, I haven't decided if I want to run with a back route for controls, or make a big obnoxious 72 tele-esque pickguard.

    Thoughts? Which is easier, routing wise?

    Man, what would I do without you! Also, Hiscock's book just arrived, I'm going to pore over it the next few days. Also, I'm taking next week off of work, so I may just start build 2 while I'm waiting for the finish to cure on this one :D
     
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    Routed out the rear cavity. I tried to do this with straightedge after hogging it out with a forstner bit, and I think I'll have to make some templates for the next build.

    Drilled the jack hole, worked great freehand!

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    Also countersunk the neck bushing holes and drilled the neck and string through holes, and routed a channel for wiring.

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    I'm excited! It's actually sort of looking like a guitar now!
     
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    How do I ensure my neck pocket is flat? I did a decent job of routing it to the proper depth (aside from a tiny snafu with my palm router not being in a locked position, minimal slip before i realized it.

    To get it perfectly flat, should I just use a sanding block? Is it even necessary to do so if the neck angle isn't affected?
     
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    The tight waist on that body reminds me of the Leslie West signature Dean that was out a few years ago...:cool:
     
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    You can just scrape it with a chisel or stick some abrasive on a hard flat block and clean it up. This is assuming it is level but with machine tool marks.
     
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    Exactly that, good idea with the chisel!
     
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    Sanding sealer then primer on, super excited to see this beast with the actual color on it!
     

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    No, no neck build threads per sey,but all my build threads have a neck build in them.That one is from my failed 2012 build challenge (didn't finish in time).The reason for my mindset I suppose is I read everything I could find and made a neck on my first build long ago.It's pretty damn ugly but still works lol
     
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    Haha I hear you. This one is going to have a few finish imperfections, but it's just for me so I'm ok with that. Now that I know I CAN, I will build a bunch more that are perfect. Ish.

    I've already got the woods picked out - there's some crazy flamed mahogany aty local store that I've been itching to make a body out of, and the have flamed maple neck blanks that will be glorious :) I'll probably start on regular maple with a neck build though.

    Speaking of which, is soft maple strong enough for necks? They are out of hard rock maple.

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    SOME soft maple is,I've always had good luck with curly maple,gunstock grade
     
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    Soft maple should be fine assuming it is dry and defect free. Soft maple is just a name used to differentiate it from Hard maple.

    Harmony and Danelectro used poplar and they held up. I bet poplar is less dense than soft maple...and if you look at the charts, it is. Wood has a density, and the higher the density, the harder it is to put a ding in it. Density and weight go hand and hand. Heck I made a neck out of pine. Most anything will work. Tradition is a whole different matter. Consider that mahogany is about the same density, I'd say you are OK.


    https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/differences-between-hard-maple-and-soft-maple/


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