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Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by omahaaudio, Apr 19, 2019.
"Fire and Rain" was a great read as I recall.
I will likely read this book, as I read a LOT of music bios.
Ranked in order of how much I like their music:
I don't think I'll read it.
I am a Steve Stills fan. really like most of his work whether solo or in groups.
I think CS&N could have gone in a better direction had they not enlisted Young.
Their first album was great. Once Young was in the band the musical direction changed.
Of course this is just my opinion.
I am pretty much an equal Stills and Young fan. I can't see how Neil could have changed CSN's musical direction. When the second CSN studio album finally came out (1977) it seemed they were back in form and was a great follow up to the first album and they continued on for better or worse depending on who thinks what. No way they were going to top that first album, it was great stuff in the right place and time. All IMO of course.
Thanks for the heads up!
He did change their direction because he took over the band. And walked out of rehearsals, quitting or threatening to quit when he didn't get what he wanted. Young sees bands as either backup musicians or stepping stones for his own career.
The idea to add him to CS&N was Ahmet Ertegun's. He thought Young would help add fire to the band in live performances. That changed the band. They were mostly an acoustic folk rock band before that.
Stills didn't trust Young because he'd walked out on Buffalo Springfield too many times. Which Young continued to do with CSN&Y.
When I listen to the first 2 albums back to back, it's immediately obvious to me CS&N had changed or were in the process of changing.
Not the same band anymore.
Like I said all of this is my opinion. Glad you like them with Young.
During an inebriated evening many moons ago, a CSN song came on the juke at my favorite bar. My buddy Jimi looked up and announced "Crap, Crap, Crap and Young" which pretty much sums them up to me. Not trying to run any one else's tastes down, but I still grin when I think of the sheer poetry of that moment.
Nash (The Hollies)
Good tip. Not sure how much new material's in here, but will keep my eyes open for a copy when it hits these shores.
It has been said that one can be judged by those who he chooses to associate with...
The original trio was/is wonderful. NY was born to be a solo artist. He was absolutely wrong for
CSN. Ertegun wasn't always the omnipotent guru legend has made him out to be.
I liked Brownes Grateful Dead bio...
CSNY HAS to be THE most over rated group EVER! ONE album of original material (ignoring the latter day attempts which have little bearing)
Oh wait THREE albums! Deja Vu, Greatest Hits, and 4 Way Street! LOL!
That said I dig CSNY! Reminds me of cutting HS classes and smoking joints without a care in the world!
The recent Live 1974 is pretty cool despite the fact they claim it was a lame tour...
Put the Audible book in my cart!
In Neil's case, CSNY provided him with a boatload of cash so I think that association was a shrewd one on his part.
In my case, you would be absolutely correct to judge me by my association with drunken reprobates like Jimi.
I was just teasing you, kind sir.
Drunken Reprobate??? Sounds like a British Blues classic. Savoy Brown. perhaps???
I ordered the book right after seeing this thread, I'm a few chapters in. It's an easy/enjoyable read, nothing earth-shatteringly new to me so far, but there are a lot of interesting tidbits for the fans.
I would like to read about the music and the rock and roll adventures, but I wont read it, because I am pretty sure it, like their concerts of late will be a political soap box. Hopefully reviews will prove me wrong. then I'll read it.
For those without much appreciation for Graham Nash, check out Songs For Beginners.
I think it all kinda worked out the way it worked out and we all got a bunch of great music.... I had one of those weekends where you realize, at some point, it all gets lost to the sands of time... and even our memories are just lightest gossamer creations... but, if I were scavenging in some deserted place 500 years from now... I think finding one of their records would be a refreshing and cool drink from a bygone time....
All those guys are superlative musicians, songwriters, and singers.
They brought great happiness to legions of (us) Boomers.
They were young, smart, good looking, and very prolific.
They were also troubled, egomaniacal, irresponsible, and inconsiderate.
In other words, human, just like all us.
I’ve read books about every one of them.
I’ll read this one, too.
My opinion won’t change, but I’ll enjoy the read.