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Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by Chris_R, May 11, 2015.
Maybe these photos are a bit clearer. I circled them since they aren't easy to see.
So, now there is evidence it's a 68 body. In the better pic of the control cavity, besides seeing that the forward end is in fact rounded properly, you can also see that the rear side was more squared off (which is typical). And you can see a circle at the left side, where the router bit was parked (also typical).
The following pics are of a 68 body. You can see that the near end (forward on the guitar) is rounded nicely, but the far end is somewhat squared off in comparison. And if you look closely, you can see the router bit circle in the bottom of the near end.
Here's the router bit circle(s) in the bridge pickup rout on the same body.
Yes, the backward end on mine is definitely not quite as round as the forward end. Fascinating. So can I reasonably say that I have a '68 Fender Telecaster body with a '72 Fender Telecaster neck, modified circa 1974 to accommodate a loaded Fender Telecaster Custom pick guard? Still a Partocaster, but a somewhat more satisfying one than the non-Fender Telecaster-type body version.
Yes, I think so. I believe that Major Gruber was right about the penciled 8, and after seeing the manipulated pic of the neck pocket I think I see a faint, correct paint pattern there, and one that is only correct for 68. The better, close-up pic of the control cavity rout shows that it is correct in appearance. You have router pin hole dowels that are correct in the back, a correct notch, and correct string ferrules.
Wow, this thread had a major recovery!
Excellent. Thanks for all your insights. And actually, it's not really a Partocaster. If you break the neck and replace it with a new one, it's still a Telecaster. And if you modify it for a humbucker in the Telecaster Custom style, it's still a Telecaster, just a modded one. Telecaster with a story.
I think partcaster naming include fender items from different epocs too. But you can purchase a 68 neck and call it a 68 modified
So is the humbucker a Seth Lover pickup? To me, that's what gives the 70's Custom its unique sound.
As far as I can tell. It looks exactly like all the ones I've looked at photos of online, the only difference being that mine has a 5-digit serial number (83874) and most of the others seem to have a 6-digit serial number. I don't know what that means.
Don't know about the neck pickup but the bridge is same as mine.
I bought in 86 for 170 Deutsche Mark the same Duncan STK-T1 noiseless.
It served me well for over twenty years.
Sound is rather vintage tele.
Thanks Velorex, that's exactly it. I thought it was a Seymour Duncan, but wasn't 100% sure. I joined a band in '86 after not playing for a couple of years, and that's when I had the pickup (and tone/volume controls) replaced. They didn't have any of the proper Fender replacement parts, so I went with what they recommended. Sounded great, but I've always been annoyed by the look and colour of it.
When these mods were done guys didn't consider the vintage value. They just wanted a better pickup in the neck.
I had a tele custom that had a Gibson PAF screwed right into the wood in the bridge position. It didn't even have a replacement scratch guard, the Gibby just sat in this big hole where the wide range had been.
I took that PAF out and put a tarback into it. I think I put the PAF into my 125. It had chrome covered DeArmonds, which I threw away.
Things were a little different in those days.
This is a pencil marking from an old Stringmaster that had had its original paint removed, a think coat of blue and black paint applied which was subsequently removed, revealing the pencil date again.
Chris_R, what a really interesting story and cool tele you have there! Fascinating thread with great info as usual from slack and Major Gruber
My (January) 72 Telecaster neck was also made by X. Armenta and it is excellent, a local vintage dealer even remarked that my guitar has "the best neck..Fender didn't make many telecasters with that neck"
What a great thread. Another reason why this forum is so good with experts debating and sharing knowledge. I could cover these posts with 'likes' but better to say thanks with a quick note. One day I'll subject my 66 Custom to this scrutiny when I've taken enough gut shots!
Funny it comes back again after two years. Thanks for the comment but the real expert is Slack, his knowledge is impressive. I'm just a smart hunter that collected the most information possible to get great vintage wood I couldn't have afforded in collector grade. Part of my own specific training was to become good at recognising shapes and clues through photographs, as this thread shows pretty precisely… After 7 years, I stopped the hunt as I ended up being very happy with the instruments I had collected and restored, and focus now on making them sing. I just go on the forum sometimes for fun now, using my pretty big picture collection to help when I can, and trying to slowly learn more, to keep the advantage I got from the time I invested.