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More evidence that Florida IS crazy!

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by DougM, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. ozcal

    ozcal Tele-Holic

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    1.8 mil for that sh1t box... wow
     
  2. Bones

    Bones Telefied Ad Free Member

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    he was born in Colombia to a Colombian mother, Hispanics have different naming conventions than Anglos have, so it's probably his mother's name or since Native Americans didn't really have first and last names either, it could simply be a family name that his father's family picked up along the way.
     
  3. Bones

    Bones Telefied Ad Free Member

    Dec 31, 2005
    Luddite Island, NY
    Especially a group of guys who immediately start thinking re-sale value every time they buy a piece of gear.
     
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  4. GEECEE

    GEECEE TDPRI Member

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    Oops!! Double post.
     
  5. GEECEE

    GEECEE TDPRI Member

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    Wonder what artifacts he found. Like the ancient guitar found in the UK somewhere. Photo showed a woman holding what looked like a 2-3" long comb. I call BS. No pix... didn't happen...
     
  6. Blrfl

    Blrfl Tele-Meister

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    It's not the building, it's the land underneath.
     
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  7. nojazzhere

    nojazzhere Poster Extraordinaire

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    Don't know what Florida's eminent domain laws say, but eminent domain is NOT suppose to apply to commercial ventures. In other words, it should only be used for public works.(highways, school buildings, libraries, etc.) Here in Texas, courts have started approving eminent domain cases for developers, who claim their projects are economically for "the common good". Yes, some property owners may "hold out" just to jack up the price, but isn't that how the free market is supposed to work?
     
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  8. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity

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    Before my Father was born, his parents bought land in Florida from one of those scammers, and of course is was right in the middle of the everglades.

    Fast forward 50 some odd years, they were gone, my Father had also passed, and a Florida Lawyer contacted me about some real estate I owned in Florida that his client was interested in buying!

    I only got about $20k IIRC, maybe I shoulda held out?
     
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  9. stephent2

    stephent2 Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 22, 2003
    Georgia/Minnesota
    I lived in Florida so I feel I can comment,... Of all the things that prove Florida is,... wack, a native American standing for his sacred ground is not it. Anyone remember stories of the Trail of Tears?

    'There's not enough money that can buy what's on this land because it's simply priceless,' Mr Bermudez told the Herald. 'How can you put a price on the history of humanity? It has none.'

    A teachable moment apparently lost on some here.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. GGardner

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  11. uriah1

    uriah1 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    I lived there for a couple years, my sister does now.

    Big butt place now, traffic everywhere.

    It use to be just blue hairs with cadillacs.
     
  12. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity

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    Seems odd and sad that at least in the articles I saw no support from native communities for his attempt to protect sacred native ground.
    Maybe because he is not in his native locale, and is native to another tribal location, thus has no support from the local tribes because he is not one of them?
    Or the local tribes do not believe his yard is a sacred spot, just because he dug up some shards there?
    Or the local tribes have been so marginalized that they virtually no longer exist?
    Or the local tribes are invested in land use, therefore they are not invested in the reservation/ preservation?

    In Maine there are numerous Tribal lands and organizations.
    Seems like they are either struggling with solving the drug and alcohol problems in their communities, or they are running casinos.
    Many do preserve the native language and some amount of customs/ beliefs, but those I know say the youth is seldom interested.

    This may sound racist, but I've gotten this info from local natives I know.

    One might note that a good portion of what natives have for financial assets is their reservation lands, which are essentially our American concentration camps.
    We can't really fault turning concentration camps into casinos, given that Gov't offers this as an option, but overall I see a sadness in the local native culture, not so much a joyous upholding of their values and cultural customs/ beliefs.

    Maybe the Southwest native population does better with that?

    Where is the Florida native presence in this little fight?

    Apologies to any native members here if I got stuff wrong.
     
  13. kLyon

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    Well said.
    A world in which nothing but money has value is a shallow one indeed.
    (Especially if one closely considers what "money" actually is, what it represents, and how it's used in modern finance...)
     
  14. dkmw

    dkmw Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    This is a very logical question.

    But the answer is that there are no Florida Native survivors. They were all killed by disease or slavery by ~1750.

    Florida was almost vacant for a while - then the Creeks and Miccosukees started getting chased out of Georgia and Alabama. Along with runaway slaves, they fled into Florida and became the Seminoles.

    There isn't anyone left that can claim any significant amount of Calusa, Tequesta, Timucuan, or Ais blood.
     
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  15. stephent2

    stephent2 Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 22, 2003
    Georgia/Minnesota
    Good questions in general. Doesn't diminish one man's fight. Sometimes we're on our own until there's too much news to ignore. Notice the news article was a UK source.

    I don't feel qualified to talk about Native American issues, except to say every region is different. I'm from northern MN, land of the Ojibwa/Chippewa and have a childhood friend who's a member of the tribe and owns land on the reservation and another who's a medicine man and an elder in the tribe. They are a proud people as they should be and don't suffer from the cliches we've all heard over and over. Proud of their land, their history and their tribe.

     
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  16. McGlamRock

    McGlamRock Friend of Leo's

    Jun 1, 2010
    San Francisco, CA
    I wonder who owns that shack. If it belongs to a wealthy person AND it’s sacred land...


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  17. nojazzhere

    nojazzhere Poster Extraordinaire

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    This thread has reminded me of a favorite quote, attributed to Oscar Wilde, when he was "snarkily" critical of someone he had no respect for......." He (she) is someone who knows the PRICE of everything, and the VALUE of nothing."
     
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  18. Wallo Tweed

    Wallo Tweed Friend of Leo's

    Dec 6, 2011
    Penns Wood
    They have done the same thing here.
     
  19. DougM

    DougM Friend of Leo's

    Jul 5, 2017
    Honolulu, HI
    I'm sure all you fabulously altruistic, holier than thou, eminently ethical posters here wouldn't take the money and run if you were the owner. Besides, $1.8M could help a lot of impoverished indigenous people.
     
  20. bftfender

    bftfender Friend of Leo's

    Dec 21, 2017
    York PA
    sweet.FL is crazy......crazy is good,,,we are FL bound this year soon as my Co sale finishes...making a 32x32 Florida room off the back with a stage and full PA & lights then be able wheel amps off stage into van by a door for gigs..living on river or canal that leads to Gulf with boat dock is a requirement....
     
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