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Low Gain Overdrive for a Jazzy Tone

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by OwenHu99, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:00 AM.

  1. NiceTele

    NiceTele Tele-Holic

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    Dec 20, 2012
    Australia
    Menatone Red Snapper 3. Worked on jazz stuff for me.
     
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  2. NorthenLights

    NorthenLights TDPRI Member

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    Any low gain tweedish pedal or amp should do the trick. I think it's more about how he uses drive to enhance harmonics that's the secret. I'd say the amp is fairly cranked while the volume knob on the guitar is turned down quite s bit. Combine that with a very light touch, and of course tone knob rolled back, anf you should be able to get close to that.
     
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  3. dnauheim

    dnauheim Tele-Meister

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    Aug 5, 2009
    Seattle
    I too was pretty taken with his tone on that recording, and pretty floored to see that it was just a tele and a champ! That said--maybe I am missing something, but I find it pretty amusing that TDPRI is advising you to go Dumble to get a Champ tone! (no offense to anyone I hope!) I've tried most, maybe all, of the tweed pedals out there and I would say--get yourself a Lovepedal Les Lius. So good. It has the magic. Especially at a low gain setting.
     
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  4. maxsmith

    maxsmith Tele-Meister

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    Jun 16, 2004
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  5. NorthenLights

    NorthenLights TDPRI Member

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    But seriously, why not just get a champ-clone? A clone built from a kit is usually not much more expensive than a new botique pedal.
     

  6. maxvintage

    maxvintage Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    Mar 16, 2003
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    I went all over with this and ended up getting a really nice slightly overdriven tone—and I mean slightly—with a few different pedals.

    My sonic goal is jazz/blues in the 40s and fifties, so think from Charlie Chrisan and t bone walker to Barney kessel to Kenny Burrell on blue note. I play a guitar I made with a p90 in the neck position

    The problem with most drive pedals is they cut out low end. Here are some my experiences, using a Hendrickson jazzamp

    TC electronic mojomojo— cheap and effective, reasonable touch responsiveness with lots of low end available

    Catalinbread formula 55. Very dark. Adds a TON of compression. Very sensitive to changes in the guitar volume knob

    Moog mf drive. Totally cool pedal which as a wide range of great sounds, and can add slight saturation at any frequency level

    Supro drive. Too much gain and a little noisey but the most amp-like pedal I’ve ever played.

    Supro trem—paydirt! I was looking for a good trem pedal and this pedal comes with a preamp similar to the one I the Supro drive. You can set the gain level to add distortion. At the lowest setting, with the trem controls off, you get this really great mild saturation that adds space and harmonics, but feels like an amp. I did a review of it here that includes sooundclips
     
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  7. nosuch

    nosuch Friend of Leo's

    Apr 4, 2008
    Cologne
    Sorry to spoil the party but I think with the blues jr. you already have the right tool – more dynamic edge of drive tones than any pedal. Just crank it up (volume if you can't play loud, master on a gig) dime the treble a bit and experiment with the fat switch. If that doesn't quit get you there, try an alnico speaker like a a Jensen P12. It makes the amp a bit quieter but takes it even more into tweed land.
     

  8. kennl

    kennl Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2007
    Moon Township, PA
    D-style OD pedals seem very popular with neck humbucker users
    For single coils, a tweed or Valco type pedal might work better
    I use a Greer Ghetto Stomp to replicate the sound of my Ampeg Jet through amps that fill a bigger space
     

  9. Guitaryellow

    Guitaryellow TDPRI Member

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    Ampeg Jet - Wonderful bell like tone.
     

  10. misterdl

    misterdl TDPRI Member

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  11. maxvintage

    maxvintage Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    I agree with this, btw, except I don’t think it spoils any parties.. I’m very happy with the tone I’m getting from solid state amps, but the blues jr is a really great amp—I just bought one. It’s more noisy, but it does a moderate volume jazz tone well
     

  12. maxvintage

    maxvintage Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    I have one of these and found it useless for my idea of a good jazz tone
     

  13. 1300 E Valencia

    1300 E Valencia Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 13, 2010
    Fullerton CA
    Don't forget the heavy gauge strings. Just a guess, but I doubt there's Super Slinkys on that tele.
     

  14. smithsonian

    smithsonian Tele-Meister

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    Oct 6, 2011
    San Antonio, TX
    Sorry if someone has stated this already, but I didn’t see it. Looks like he is playing straight into a low wattage tweed. If you can’t get that from your current amp, I’d suggest a pedal that is designed to do that...I.e. a Red Llama, Les Luis, or maybe a Wampler Tweed ‘57.
     

  15. chris m.

    chris m. Friend of Leo's

    Ok, I listened to the player. In my opinion his playing is great but his tone is not that hard to attain in terms of gear. There's some overthinking going on here...all you need is a Tele, a small amp, something that imparts a little gain, and the rest is up to the hands.
     
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  16. screamin eagle

    screamin eagle Friend of Leo's

    Oct 9, 2008
    S. CA
    Nocturne Barnyard pedal. For that type of tone you really want to push the bass notes over the edge first. Real loose bass is what helps you get that mild OD compressed tone still with detail.
     
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  17. Robert H.

    Robert H. Friend of Leo's

    Jul 28, 2005
    N. Cal.
    Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with those who think the BJr. is good for this mix. I’d look at other small amps.
     
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  18. smithsonian

    smithsonian Tele-Meister

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    Oct 6, 2011
    San Antonio, TX
    Pro jr.
     

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