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Let's make a neck!

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by guitarbuilder, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The next task was one I wasn't looking forward to. I'm doing a 7.25" radius on this and doing it without a radius jig. I'm using a Philly Luthier Supply aluminum beam for the first time.


    I decided to sacrifice a ROSS sanding belt ( 50 grit) in order to do more work more quickly. It fits pretty close and I stuck it down with double sided carpet tape. I've found I prefer to move the neck over the beam instead of the other way of moving the beam over the neck. I clamp it at one end with the clamp out of the way.



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  2. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    Then it's a matter of doing the repetitive motion back and forth and keeping track of where the wear is. After a few minutes I put some pencil lines on there. With 50 grit, you don't want to lose your grip or you'll end up with road rash.

    After 5 minutes

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    After 10 minutes

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    After 15 minutes...I stopped here and will switch grits and do more tomorrow.
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  3. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The net result of 15 minutes of laboring with 50 grit on the beam.

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  4. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    Here are the drawings to determine where the facets go. I'm taking the cross section at the nut and 14th fret.

    This will be a fat neck. If you would like a more in depth explanation to the faceting carve process, you should go back to the first neck in this thread. It is explained in more detail with more simplified drawings.


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  5. oldrebel

    oldrebel Friend of Leo's

    Oct 23, 2011
    Lynchburg Tennessee
    That is looking great Marty!!
     

  6. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    Thanks!
     

  7. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    After drawing the guide lines on there, I started to rasp out the primary facets.


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  8. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County

  9. mkster

    mkster Tele-Afflicted

    Sep 25, 2010
    Montreal Quebec
    I made a little something for you ...
     

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  10. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    that's pretty slick....
     

  11. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The secondary facet dimensions:

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  12. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    First we have the lines in place.

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  13. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    I filed the secondary facets because there isn't much material to remove and I didn't want to leave big grooves from the rasp. This is a 10 minute operation. Then the scraping begins.

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  14. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The results after the filing and scraping.


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  15. Davecam48

    Davecam48 Friend of Leo's Ad Free + Supporter

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    Dec 31, 2009
    Queensland Australia
    At your #272 post above Marty, when I saw that photo, I thought to myself,"that's a good start for a trapezoidal neck:cool: Have you ever done a "trap." neck Marty? I've done a couple and find them to be quite easy to adapt to and comfortable, as well as giving increased reach across the fret-board. I wonder why they are rarities rather than common.

    Great tutorial as usual venerable teacher.

    DC
     

  16. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County

    Thanks! I have only carved round necks. When I get to that point like in #272, I always think about a v shaped neck. I have owned an Allparts V and it was OK... I guess one likes what they like.
     

  17. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    To blend in all the facets and curves I spend a while with my belt sander sanding block and some coarse drums from the ross. You can see the low spots which show up that have no scratches in them. I also replaced one rectangular inlay which was sitting low and used a bit of plastic wood to fill in a divot on the heel.

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  18. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The side dots go in next. I measure down the side at both ends of the fretboard and make a couple marks. The marks get connected with a straight line. Then I go in with a scale and measure between the fret slots to find the center. I project a line down to the horizontal line. That's where I make a dent with my punch/awl/scribe tool.


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  19. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The dents get drilled and the rod gets glued in each hole with duco cement.


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  20. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    The side dots got sanded down. The whole neck got sanded with 80 grit. I put a strip of 80 grit on the sanding beam to ensure that it is flat.

    The truss rod nut got shortened about 1/16" and a couple of strokes to ease the fretboard edges.

    I was expecting it to feel like a baseball bat, but I guess the 7.25 radius compensates a bit for the thickness.


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