Lead vs. Rhythm guitar.

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  1. Bergy

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    I say this a lot, but I think the clear demarcation between rhythm and lead depends on the style of music. For example, most of the country bands I’ve been in have been quite strict about it. Blues bands, not so much.

    Unlike the cat in the video, you won’t often catch me not playing for more than a measure or two, unless I am purposely dropping out for a section of the form. There is almost always a harmony line, a counterline or unorthodox chord voicing to offer up. Usually only if the texture is super thick and sloppy am I gonna completely drop out to flex my pecks for the crowd. Lol, j/k....I do that every other chorus! =)

    Beyond solos, lead guitarists are also expected to play fills on a lot of tunes (if no one else already is.) You gotta wait for the vocalist takes a breath then play a short complimentary phrase then ends as the vocals come back in. Call and response works well for that. It can really distract a vocalist if you are contastantly noodling while they are singing. Wait for a space.

    In jazz, you are expected to be able to weave the lead and rhythm playing. There aren’t a whole lotta Freddie Green types, running around grinding out four-to-the-floor fat chords for a living.

    I don’t play a lot of metal, but in that video the rhythm player was playing more horizontal (linear) than vertical (chordal). I wonder if that is pretty standard? Guessing there aren’t so many cowboy chords in metal. Rhythm guitar playing can start to sound a lot like lead playing when they are both playing lines (single notes).
     
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    I didn’t realize till the end that it was the same guy! It was fun to watch
     
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    A lot of power chords in the metal genre. Power chords meaning say E and A string played together highly distorted to sound what like you describe as a traditional chord but lower and heavier.
     
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    Ditto
     
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    Yeah, yeah, I get the whole new age notion that there is no distinction between anything anymore, but...c'mon, there is lead guitar and there is rhythm guitar.
     
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    It was? I will have to fire up my other laptop and watch that again (work proxy won't allow YouTube or other video sites).
     
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    When you hit 60, as we remove you from the street we'll be sure to let you know we're doing it for your own good. You're easily confused and shouldn't be unsupervised. :D
     
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    I think a lot of people don't understand that what makes EVH great (and, by extension, his band) isn't his crazy impressive tapping- it's his riffs. In his prime the man was an unstoppable riff machine, and that's what really propelled Van Halen to greatness.
     
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    And that sound. Like a 747 taking off.
     
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    If it was a beautiful girl (or even a good looking one) I'm sure you would have a different conversation.



    At church, the "lead guitar" is the guy to my right that plays 12 string. His rhythm "leads" the song and we all follow. Looks nothing like those guitars in the video, but it is black. :)
     
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    I have hit 60, and I have no problem with your assertion.
     
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    Ooh. Played it again at home, expanded to full screen, and @Toadtele is right. Same dude. I did not see the split line on the screen in the small window.
     
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    ^^^ This. :cool:
     
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