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Lead Free Solder Tone Change....

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by TmyBmore, Mar 20, 2017 at 6:57 PM.

  1. GoldDeluxe5E3

    GoldDeluxe5E3 Tele-Holic

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    That's why I moved.
     
  2. WetBandit

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    What I really want to know is, did you make sure and dehumidifie your workspace prior to soldering?

    Moisture in the air can form tone coloring corrosion in your solder joints...

    It will make the guitar sound super "liquidy"

    If you didn't take these preventative measures there is a solution though extremely costly and rare...

    Aerosol, Cheetah blood...

    Open the control cavity and just spray several thin coats...

    It will work, trust me, I'm a guitar player.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017 at 12:20 AM
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  3. Blue Bill

    Blue Bill Friend of Leo's

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    Yeah, I tried that new gluten-free solder. I didn't really hear a difference, but I feel do morally superior about it, and it's a great way to annoy my friends.
     
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  5. archetype

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    Am I the only one who noticed the tinny pun?
     
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  6. 3-Chord-Genius

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    Notice how everybody has celiac disease these days?
     
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  7. TmyBmore

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    Is it available on Amazon?
     
  8. WetBandit

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    Unfortunately no, you have to go through a boutique dealer in West Africa.


    Then you gotta get past customs.

    Tell them it's heart medication for your aching back.
     
  9. xafinity

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    "Is it available on Amazon?"
    Oh contrare, I bought some on Wednesday and by the weekend I had celiac disease
     
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  10. TmyBmore

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    Ah, boutique....Damn it! Now I'm gassing for Aerosol Cheetah Blood!
     
  11. WetBandit

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    Guaranteed to make you play faster,sound meaner and more ferocious.
     
  12. teleamp

    teleamp Poster Extraordinaire

    I agree with the poster that said you mighght have wired a pickup out of phase... Remember solder is just the glue, it has no bearing on tone...


    edit to add; One thing to keep in mind is that it is hard to see a cold solder joint with lead free solder, could that be your problem?
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017 at 6:43 AM
  13. Modman68

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    The solder type doesn't matter... but what the real pro's don't tell you is that post solder treatments are critical for optimal tone transmission.

    Because the solder is melted at high heat to flow into the joints, the alignment of the lead or silver atoms becomes disjointed, leading to phasing problems with your signal.

    The solution is the transmission of continuous high frequency signal through the pickups for an extended amount of time to re-align the small atomic latticework.

    In my tests, 24 hours of cheap trick at buddokan played in my iPhone with the speakers at the pickup resulted in an increase of .025db in highs above 7.8k. Additional highs above 20k were revealed playing the remastered version.

    If you feel your sound is too bright to begin with, alter the method as follows. 48 hours of the MC5's first album played loudly through your home stereo speaker. Again...loudly. It will not be necessary to hold the pickup near the speaker. You will experience a softening of response in the highs with some complex steady-state upper harmonics that persist even when the guitar is not played.
     
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  14. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Friend of Leo's

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  15. flyingbanana

    flyingbanana Poster Extraordinaire

    One time, I bought a 10lb roll of lead solder from the 50's on Ebay. I don't have to worry about crappy 1 directional tin solder ever.
     

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  16. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

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    Was the lead-free solder made in China?
    If so, there's you're problem. You should be using MIA or at least MIM solder.
     
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  17. Bakeacake08

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    I'll only wire pickups during a waning gibbous . . . That seems to be the best phase for it.
     
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  18. TmyBmore

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    It was Russian. What will that do?
     
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  19. TmyBmore

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    As it turns out it was the last night of the waning gibbous moon!
     
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  20. Guran

    Guran Friend of Leo's

    Mar 20, 2007
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    Now when the guitar is lead-free you can only use it for rhythm. If you want to play lead you will need another guitar.

    Hm, maybe that was the purpouse?
     
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  21. skippolony

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    Is your solder on a reel or in one of those tubes ?
    If it's on a reel it has more chance of being contaminated ;)
     
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