Landing the jazz chords

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by Flat6Driver, May 14, 2019.

  1. E5RSY

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    Oh, yeah, you're right...if your bass player is hip enough to play a lot of walking/passing notes it can be easy to get in each other's way.
     
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    Interesting and informative thread guys- thanks to all. (Found the above-noted book on ebay and just bought it for £11.20...)
     
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    I have The Inner Game Of Music, same author. 1+
     
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    How would I do it? I'm a big fan of three note chords, these are chords that Jackie King used often when playing with Willie, I know that because he gave a clinic at my college. They are smooth and seamless chords that are heard as a soft pillow behind the melody, super easy to play, world class sound, here's one of many ways to play this with 3 note chords.

    4 beats per chord,

    Night Life
    Cmaj7 . . . C9 . . . . Fmaj7. . .Fm6
    -------------|------------|--------------|--------
    ---5--------|----8------|-----10-----|------9
    ---4--------|----7------|-------9-----|------7
    -------------|------------|--------------|--------
    ---3--------|----7------|-------9-----|------8
    -------------|------------|--------------|--------

    Cmaj7 . . . .A7 . . . . Dm7 . . .G7

    -------------|------------|--------------|--------
    ---8--------|-----8-----|------6------|---6---
    ---7--------|-----6-----|------5------|---4---
    -------------|------------|--------------|--------
    ---7--------|-----7-----|------5------|---5---
    -------------|------------|--------------|--------

    Notice how C9 and Cmaj7 use the same chord/fingering/shape? That happens with these 3 note chords, lots of pluralities, it really shrinks the complexity of jazz chording through changes.

    These are not strumming chords as much as pick/finger or all finger.
     
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    Version 2, two chords per bar,

    -------------|---------------|-------------|--------------
    --------8---|--11----8---|-10----6--|--9----13--
    --9----7---|----9----7---|---9----5--|--8----12--
    --9---------|---------------|-------------|--------------
    --------7---|--10----7---|---8----5--|--8----11--
    --8---------|---------------|-------------|---------------

    --------------|------------|------------|------------
    --17--13--|--10--8--|--6--10--|--12--8--
    --16--12--|----9--6--|--5----9--|--10------
    --------------|------------|------------|--------9--
    --15--12--|----9--7--|--5----8--|--10--8--
    --------------|------------|------------|-------------
     
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    Regarding the 'jazz chord' book, this is what fought* my attention. I too have "stuff" that cost money yet ended up proving less than wise investments.

    Ordered a copy yesterday from Book Depository. Nothing available in Japan.

    Thanks to Harry Styron too, for the first mention.

    Pax/
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    * Left the auto correct in, as I liked it.
     
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  7. Flat6Driver

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    Im gonna have to look at this with guitar in hand. Just looking at it online it's hard to imagine the fingering.

    Thank you though.
     
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    Most definitely guitar in hand is required.

    More notes in chords is not always better, sometimes it's better. But 3 note chords are so easy to move up and down the neck. I see players like Jim Hall, John Scofield, Mike Stern, Julian Lage, Pat Metheny, Lage Lund, Gilad Hekselman, and dozens more modern players use small chords from 4 notes all the way to one note comping, 3 note and two note (dyads) are the easiest to use while playing melodically in my opinion.

    My favorite big chord player is Lenny Breau. Ted Greene is the legendary big chord player.
    Wes was an easier big chord player (old school).

    The great thing is, our guitars can do it all, they are like no other instrument. They're awesome and awesome to figure out.
     
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    Then there are the close voiced and the open voiced aspect of chord playing.

    close voiced Cmaj7
    B - 7th
    G - 5th
    E - 3rd
    C - root

    --7
    --8
    --9
    -10
    -
    -

    same Cmaj7 chord but by dropping the G note down an octave it becomes
    Open voiced
    B - 7th
    E - 3rd
    C - root
    G - 5th

    -7
    -5
    -5
    -5
    -

    This is real good stuff to have under your belt.
     
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    So 3 note chords are derived from
    4 note chords.

    ---------------------------7-----8----10----12
    -5-----6-----8---10---6-----8----10----12
    -4-----5-----7----9----7-----9----10----12
    -5-----7-----9---10---5-----7-----9-----11
    -3-----5-----7----8-----------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------------

    ------------------------------ p-7-----8----10----12
    p--5-----6-----8----10---r-6------8----10----12
    m-4-----5-----7-----9--------------------------------
    -------------------------------i-5------7-----9-----10
    i---3-----5-----7-----8--------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------
     
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    This book is great! I'm just working through the progressions now. Adding in some new chords to my world. Of course, one day I will need to find people to play this with. :)
     
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