King of tone?

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by jomazq, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. jomazq

    jomazq Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

    Jan 22, 2010
    whittier, ca
    So, I was listening to some review videos of pedals and I left my phone in the kitchen with the volume reasonably up, since I was sending to the kids to break up a fight or something.

    A few minutes later the wife exclaims with a subdued -holy....

    I come over and see that she's googling the king of tone pedal. Dollar dollar bills , as the kids like to say.

    She was apparently shopping for a good Valentines day gift.

    I waved her off at first but ... Is it really that good ? The only other pedal that really stood out to her has been the Hyperion fuzz , which I will likely be buried with. I'll be honest, I never really took a shine to the king of tone. I always saw it as being passe and a little bit over blown in the market. But, am I missing out ?
  2. brogh

    brogh Assistant Admin Staff Member

    Jun 26, 2010
    Admin Post
    i't one of the most praised pedals around for sure .. but the waiting list is like 2 years ... :)

    Status as of On todays date of January 30, 2019:

    King Of Tone is now shipping to people who got on the waiting list on or anytime before:

    November 17, 2016 (not 2017).

    you can go used but there are some crazy prices around
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  3. moosie

    moosie Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Jul 18, 2010
    No, you're not missing anything, IMO. It's just a pedal. Lotsa pedals. AM makes good stuff, but it's not magic.

    The thing that always puzzles the crap out of me:

    There's a huge waiting list, but the pedal is simply a dual version of the Prince of Tone, and those are readily available for about $150 a pop. And then you can ask yourself if you really need both halves...

    I've owned the PoT twice, and each time never really felt it was all that.... YMMV of course.
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  4. Stratohacker

    Stratohacker Tele-Holic

    Apr 18, 2013
    There is a lot of hype surrounding the pedal that is fed by the legion of positive reviews and pedal's limited availability. If you get past all of that and just think of the pedal in terms of utility, I think its like most gear, it comes down to personal tastes.

    Personally, I love the pedal, and its one I'm never going to move. For me it just adds a great natural sounding grit and boost. It allows me to shape my driven tones in away that is superior to anything else I've used (IMHO).

    The nice thing about this pedal is that you can get on the waiting list. Eventually get the pedal. Try it out and either you'll like it and keep it. Or sell it for more than you paid for it.
  5. DougM

    DougM Friend of Leo's

    Jul 5, 2017
    Honolulu, HI
    It's just a Bluesbreaker. You can get a JHS Morning Glory, Wampler Pantheon, or Mooer Blues Crab, and you won't have to wait two or three years.
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  6. rjtwangs

    rjtwangs Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Jan 18, 2010
    Reston, Virginia
    I am on the waiting list as of 7/19/2018. If it was offered to me today I'd probably go ahead and get it and see what all the fuss is about. Will I feel the same in 18 months? We shall back up Magnavibe arrived today, so I really have no need for additional pedals I'll never use. It's very tempting, the new pedals have cool names and colors, BUT, I really have no interest in collecting pedals just because I can, it has to add something that I don't have. Can't imagine what that could be??....

  7. Peregrino69

    Peregrino69 Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Dec 12, 2016
    If you like the sound and just simply can't get it with ANYTHING else, sure it is. But chances are huge that there's a ton of other, cheaper pedals which give you the exact same sound.

    After all the sound is a result of your signal chain. Sure, the guy who does intheblues in Youtube got real nice tones, but he's playing a Squier strat into Fender amp, neither of which I have. Would it sound the same in my setup? I doubt it.
  8. kevsonic

    kevsonic Tele-Meister

    Oct 16, 2017
    Philadelphia, PA
    A Rullywow Queen of Bone or Doxasound clone is likely to be the same thing, for the price of a PoT and no wait.

    But I did say "likely".

    I'm on the list myself!
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  9. Whoa Tele

    Whoa Tele Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 20, 2009
    Smyrna Ga.
    I sold my KOT cause I like the CMAT Butah better with my tele. The KOT was a great pedal but there are others out ther that hold,their own IMHO
  10. King Creole

    King Creole Friend of Leo's

    Jan 24, 2011
    The King of Tone is a great pedal and a great value. So if you're not in a hurry, you might as well get on the waiting list and see if you want it when your name comes up in 2082 or something. I used to have a KoT and liked it but traded it for a bunch of gear. I have a Prince of Tone now, but I'm on the waiting list for another King. It's not simply a Bluesbreaker, but that was its starting point. It's well made and well thought out. But I wouldn't pay the crazy used prices for one.

    For what it's worth, I like it best live in a band mix, not at home, where the mids can sound a bit honky.
  11. ICTRock

    ICTRock Tele-Afflicted

    Jul 31, 2014
    Is it really that good? ... What a good looking question. I don't think it is worth what the used market wants for one. I think it is good enough for the asking price and waiting list. I also think you can get there quicker and cheaper these days. I think there are a lot of bluesbreaker pedals out there and complimentary pedals/boosts you can stack with it that make the concept of the king of tone look outdated and inflexible by comparison.
  12. 4pickupguy

    4pickupguy Poster Extraordinaire

    May 12, 2013
    Fort Worth, Texas
    I was on the list forever and had forgotten... got the email awhile back. I have since messed with a POT and I'm not going to shell out big bucks for something that is already covered in my current pedal board. Besides, the POT is not $$$.
  13. FenderLover

    FenderLover Friend of Leo's

    Jun 11, 2009
    I'm on the list too, and it's been quite a while. I have since found happiness with the Camel Toe as far as a dual pedal goes. Frankly, I think there is more versatility to be had stacking any number of overdrive/boost pedals one might already have than going with a dual pedal. Most Bluesbreaker types out there are not direct clones, including the KOT, but 'improved' versions on the BB shortcomings with common options. They are plentiful, including the POT.
  14. BladeStratford

    BladeStratford TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

    Mar 17, 2003
    Austin, Texas
    I've had a KOT on my board for many years because it's so flexible. Very solid clean boost option coupled with a great OD sound so really two pedals in one. The OD sound is a bit mid heavy so I find it works better with my Fender Vibrolux vs. the Dr. Z Z-28 I use as my current main amp which already has a more mid heavy tone. I use a Lovepedal Amp Eleven OD pedal with the Dr. Z as it's very close to the KOT without the mid boost. With that in mind... a good clean boost pedal in front of the Lovepedal Amp Eleven OD will get you fairly close to the KOT without the wait or the used market costs. I'm happy to have both on my board but if I had to choose one it'd be the Lovepedal Amp Eleven. (with a clean boost in front of it) The boost channel on the Amp Eleven is not "clean" nor is it meant to be. Can't really go wrong with either choice.
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  15. omahaaudio

    omahaaudio Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 21, 2015
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  16. Rayf_Brogan

    Rayf_Brogan Tele-Meister

    Dec 14, 2017
    Line 6 Helix is supposedly getting a KOT model sometime in the Spring. Whatever you may feel about amp modeling, their drive pedals and effects sound the same as the original in all th A/B tests I've seen. You can pick up a Helix Stomp for $499 which may be twice what a KOT goes for, but you get all of the other Helix modeling as well.
  17. TokyoPortrait

    TokyoPortrait Tele-Meister

    Dec 10, 2017
    Tokyo, Japan
    I don’t know if I want one or not.

    So, I figured by getting on the waiting list, I can put off the decision... :)
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  18. kevsonic

    kevsonic Tele-Meister

    Oct 16, 2017
    Philadelphia, PA
    Amen to the Amp11 option. Absolutely astonishing dual pedal that can be used had for <$100 on those Lovepedal flash sales that pop up now and then.
  19. FenderLover

    FenderLover Friend of Leo's

    Jun 11, 2009
    And the off-shore copy of the Amp11 is the Mosky Audio Amp Turbo, for less than $40 delivered to your door.

    I'll backpedal on my comment a little about a dual pedal limiting versatility, because if you have found what you like a dual pedal is actually quite convenient. But if you need versatility, one cannot expect everything from a single anything.
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  20. cousinpaul

    cousinpaul Friend of Leo's

    Jun 19, 2009
    Nashville TN
    The KoT's tweaked Blues Breaker OD tones are no doubt stellar but I imagine there are probably better boost and distortion options than a BB with clipping diodes lifted or shunted to ground. You might try combining a good BBv1 clone with a good boost and the distortion of your choosing. Could be something to play with while you're waiting for your number to come up.
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2019
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