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Kemper.... Anyone tried one?

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by WhiskeyRebellio, May 23, 2017.

  1. codamedia

    codamedia Friend of Leo's

    Apr 4, 2009
    Western Canada
    This.... exactly! I setup my HD500 to mimic my amp and pedal board for live use! We don't use in-ears, but as long as I have my own monitor mix and a nice wedge I'm good to go just as I would be with my pedal board and amp.

    FWIW... before the HD500 I used an X3, before that I used a Sans Amp... I've been going direct (as well as using traditional amps) since the early 90's... I'm very comfortable with any style of setup.
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
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  2. charlie chitlin

    charlie chitlin Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 17, 2003
    Spring City, Pa
    Do you gig it?
    What's a Helix?
    Sorry...tweed player, here ;)

  3. charlie chitlin

    charlie chitlin Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 17, 2003
    Spring City, Pa
    I sometimes play with a guy who uses this little red POD thing.
    He says its a POD 2.
    The 1 wasn't too good and the "improved" 3 was a disaster, but he loves the 2.
    Whatever the deal, he travels light and sounds great.
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  4. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Aug 17, 2012
    I officially retired from playing out twenty years ago, so it's never been used in that capacity. There are plenty of upper-level players using them live, though. The Helix is Line 6's latest modeler, and it's really good as well.

  5. hrstrat57

    hrstrat57 Tele-Holic

    Nov 21, 2016
    Rhode Island
    Headrush is finally starting to hit Guitar Center can't wait to get my hands (feet?) on it!

  6. Bart Dietvorst

    Bart Dietvorst TDPRI Member

    May 1, 2017
    the Netherlands
    I love mine, pared with good profiles (MBritt is the best imo) it is unbeatable. Here's a teleclip with mine (bass, pedalsteel and acoustic guitar are also recorded with the Kemper):

  7. Plumber

    Plumber Tele-Meister

    Jun 5, 2014
    I played a kemper with M Britt profiles - it had a divided by 13 profile that was as close as you would need to my actual divided by 13 amp

    However I went with the Helix on the basis of routing options, which are stunning

    I have my tube amps and pedals which are 'better' for home

    last night I played with my helix modelling a deluxe with a Klon and delay and trem into tech 21 power station with another route to Klon into my fender Princeton 68 - ie modelled v the 'real thing' - in rehearsal it just sounded superb with neither side better just great sound

    I use the helix in another band set up - we are going bass/guitar/guitar/keys into one helix with their own effects route into PA, everyone loves it - easy set up - delays/trems in time with each other - its a revelation to be honest

  8. Georox

    Georox Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 30, 2014
    The tan house in AZ
    Kemper plus FRFR out of my budget.

  9. ahmetomer

    ahmetomer TDPRI Member

    Jul 9, 2017
    If i had funds I would get a kemper rack and pedal board and a nice monitor to use live etc...

    And never bother analog amps. Yes i love tubes but way expensive way heavy and harder to record at home(low volume tone)...
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  10. msmith886

    msmith886 TDPRI Member

    Oct 23, 2015
    I went with the Fractal AX8 over the Kemper and love it. Highly recommend checking out Fractal Axe Effects. I've been able to get some great tones out it for sure. Keith Urban uses one.

  11. JTStivers

    JTStivers TDPRI Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Topsham, Maine
    I have used a Kemper rackmount for a couple of years and have always thought it sounded and felt great. I'm used to studio recording, so the experience of monitoring myself during gigs (clubs, etc) with a processed sound is familiar. In terms of tone and volume, the Kemper is so easy to control, whereas with my analog rig (now a Redplate CDS-3) the tone/volume variables are harder for me to control and have a consistently good sounding output. I think the Kemper patches sound amazing (M Brit, etc.). Every once in awhile, I gig with the Redplate, and it sounds great at times, but the sweet spot seems to change a lot and is inconsistent. Not the Redplate's fault, BTW...I have always struggled to "play the amp." I think if I played in a band that had a more uniform genre identity (blues, or southern rock, or funk. . . .) I'd probably use the Redplate more often, as the woolliness of a cooking tube amp is part of the charm. But my gigs always span lots of genres. If I were badder-assed, the Redplate would do it, but alas! And at 60, I want to concentrate on the music. So the Kemper works for me.

    I run my kemper through a QSC 10" FRFR pointing up at me in the usual monitor fashion. Occasionally I backline it, but I prefer it monitor style. Sound guys love it. I also have the proprietary remote, and I appreciate how well it integrates with the profiler. I do not profile my own amps--my profiler is already loaded with good tones that work for me. I particularly like the Matchless, Marshall, and Dumble profiles along with assorted clean-oriented patches.

    My only struggle with the Kemper is setting up the effects on the remote in performance mode so that the number and sequence of effects is ideal for me. I find it much easier to use external pedals to get effects, but I'm trying to remain self-contained, since the kemper has everything I need (not as fancy an effects or routing engine as AXE, but I don't need that level of sophistication). I am trying to use the same effects on all of my performance slots in locked mode because I can't remember or manage different effects schemes for different amps, but that prevents me from having it perfectly functional in terms of my needs and limitations. Two more effects slots would do it! I may eventually go to a dedicated effects unit. That would suck in terms of set-up ease.

  12. JTStivers

    JTStivers TDPRI Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Topsham, Maine
    I love this quote below! I'm that dude--I just want my steak to be delicious. I am the lame-ass bad guy in the Matrix (Cypher!) For me, my leaning toward the Kemper boils down to control on gigs. I have an excellent tube rig I use in a Top 40 cover band, but sometimes I use the Kemper. I find the Kemper to have a lot more control than my amp set-up, because the amp rig will respond differently to the various factors of performance, whereas the Kemper is (for me, anyway) much more consistent and predictable. I also get that a cooking tube amp can get wild in the most charming or bad-assed ways, but the Kemper sounds so good, honestly, that, in addition to its ability to control volume, tone, etc., it's more reliably satisfying for me. In my experience, the overdriven Kemper sounds excel, and I have a pretty convincing D-Style smoove thing, a rich Marshall roar, and that bristling Matchless crunch-to-overdrive pallette I love. In live situations, I have not yet got the Kemper's clean patches to resonate and fill the room like my tube amp does (right now, a Redplate CDS3 head), but it's doing the job in clean mode. I'm sure I can get that aspect better, and have improved the clean tones and projection over time. I have also had trouble programming the KPA and the K remote so that effects behave intuitively or so I can address them well, and this has chased me back to the tube rig lately. I am in the process of automating all program changes via IPad midi controls--our band is a power trio, and we do not stop between songs. This makes the usual tap dancing difficult to handle on either set up, but the midi program control should work flawlessly with the Kemper.

    I find the philosophy and ontology of this amp debate interesting, but I am after great sound, great control, and light weight, simple to set up convenience. At this point in my ancient life, the rest doesn't matter to me. The Kemper is almost there for me.

    My last question made me think of the character in The Matrix who wanted to be 'back inside,' who said that he knew he wasn't actually eating steak, but the simulation/emulation/whatever was just like eating steak, so (to him) that was what was important. I guess that if someone tries a Kemper with their amp(s) of choice profiled and the experience is the same as playing thru the amp that was profiled, it's entirely possible that it might be acceptable to ditch the previous rig altogether.[/QUOTE]

  13. rlawson

    rlawson NEW MEMBER!

    Mar 10, 2013

  14. Georox

    Georox Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 30, 2014
    The tan house in AZ
    Great first post.

  15. RoyBGood

    RoyBGood Poster Extraordinaire

    Not enough knobs to play with.

  16. charlie chitlin

    charlie chitlin Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 17, 2003
    Spring City, Pa
    I'm attracted to the extra expense and inconvenience of old tube amps ;)
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