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Jensen Speaker question C-Series

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by T Prior, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. T Prior

    T Prior Poster Extraordinaire

    Mar 17, 2003
    Charlotte NC
    I have not used the Jensen C series in a very long time and am considering a speaker change in my early 90's Blues Deluxe. the amp is fine, no issues but at times I feel it is very harsh with the stock EMMI Gold Label Fender speaker. I like these speakers and have been using them for over a decade but just feel like taming the highs a tad while perhaps boosting the lows slightly would be a benefit.

    the Jensen C12 K ( 100 watt) or N ( 50 watt) is what I am interested in.

    Those that are familiar with this Jensen series, what do you think ? I play Telecaster and Steel guitars with my amps, I use no picks with the Telecaster and do not want to sacrifice too much on the high end, subtle if thats even possible. I am near a 100 % clean player. Strong mid range speakers are not what I am seeking, I have a pile of those already.


    Jensen C series, if you have experience with them, shout out !

    thanks in advance !

    t
     

  2. Chicago Slim

    Chicago Slim Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    65
    Oct 19, 2005
    Bowling Green, KY
    My experience has been with 10" speakers; Jensen C10R, Eminence Legend 105 and Fender gold label. I would highly recommend the Legend 105. It's very efficient and retains good lows, at lower volume. For 12" speakers, I have been moving a neodymium, Eminence Lil' Texas from amp to amp. It's light and loud, but I haven't had a Jensen speaker for comparison.
     

  3. schmee

    schmee Friend of Leo's

    Jun 2, 2003
    northwest
    The C12N will only make it harsher, unless you can find a well worn vintage one. However, you say you finger pick, so I'm a bit surprised you are harsh now.
    The C12K is big sounding with a little of the highs tamed, big full bottom too...but it's also a pretty "flat" sounding speaker without much character. With a dirty ish amp the K can be good. But the Blues Deluxe is a pretty loud amp. Might work for you though.

    Trying to think of what will take the wattage and tame the harsh a bit. .... yet still stay "clean".
    I would likely be trying a Weber Silver Bell ceramic, 75 watt, screen dust cover or something like that. Maybe even a Hemp cone on that speaker. I had both in the past and the Hemp wasnt that different on the highs compared with the normal cone.
    An EMi GA SC64 would be nice but a little shy on wattage .
     

  4. 24 track

    24 track Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Nov 6, 2014
    kamloops bc

  5. T Prior

    T Prior Poster Extraordinaire

    Mar 17, 2003
    Charlotte NC
    thx for the replies, and yes I have the same research as above, much appreciated. I should clarify HARSH, it's more so with the Steel than with the Tele ( finger pickin') It's also I believe a trait of the Blues Deluxe amp which can lean bright, which by the way I would not call a particularly LOUD amp ( can be loud I suppose) but maintains a clean platform to my point of use which is the #1 amp requirement. I also use an EL84 based Carvin 50 watter which is pretty similar in the overall EQ curve. Both nice amps for a typical moderate size gig.

    Reading many forums regarding the C12K it appears it can be a possibility but I also see that the Weber 50 watt 12F150 with lite doping is highly recommended as a replacement for the Jensen C series , especially in Fender amps such as a DRRI which come with the C12.

    Whichever one I decide to grab I guess I'll have to run it thru a stereo out in the garage for a few hours to give it some break-in time.
     

  6. uriah1

    uriah1 Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Feb 12, 2011
    Around
    Well, do you want clean at high vol levels? That C12N is old chime at its best, but, get wranky when pushed.
    The C12K too middy or something. Maybe you should look at high db, high wattage types?
    The ET65 mellows out amps..but, don't think you want that.
     

  7. schmee

    schmee Friend of Leo's

    Jun 2, 2003
    northwest
    The 12F150 can be a lovely speaker. Ted designed it after the Jensen C12N and in fact it was originally called a C12N. However he designed after the years that the C12N Jensen had tight voice coil clearances that he said were the best and loudest. It does risk cone cry a bit in doing so.
    A ton of break in required. If ordering new, a screen dust cover and light dope is my favorite. I lean toward the Silver Bell instead of the 12F150 now days in a Weber, but the F150 is nice. Seems an F150 50 watt is on the edge of wattage requirement but ok. The BD is 40 watt? Usually some F150 used around at a decent price.
     
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  8. JRShotgun

    JRShotgun TDPRI Member

    35
    Jun 26, 2016
    Indiana
    I second schmee's comment. Weber 12F150 50W lite dope. Excellent speaker. Very long break in...but worth it. I have one in a 1964 DR and two in a 1965 TR. Big, Bold, clean but not harsh.
     

  9. MadJack

    MadJack Friend of Leo's

    While I'm far from versed in speakers as CJ, I think the 12F150 would be your best choice. If more clean headroom than the 12F150 is desired, there is the Ceramic Chicago 12, though I think the 50 watt 12F150 would be fine.

    Another option might be the Warehouse Guitar Speaker's G12C, their version of the C12N. I've had very good results from WGS. Their speakers are based on the major speaker manufacturer's speakers, but with tweaks to what has been called faults or problems with the originals. They also have the G12C/S, for a warmer, further smoothed out top end.

    In my own recent experience, I got the MonoPrice 5 watt amp for noodling around at home. The stock speaker was the Celestion Super 8. It actually sounded pretty good with it, but I was after a more "American" tone with a full as possible tone for an 8" speaker. I got a B-Stock Weber 8F150 off of Weber's Reverb page. It is very warm and full sounding for an 8" speaker, taming the highs very nicely. Problem is, my favorite guitar, my Epiphone Casino, is a very warm voice guitar. Playing clean is was warm and smooth, but overdriven it got muddy and the cleans lacked any sparkle. I got the WGS G8C and found a full sounding 8" speaker with the missing sparkle and jangle. It's not ice picky with my brighter voiced guitars (Dano '59 NOS+, Teles), but is too bright for my taste. I have an old Champ 600 cab that has an 8" baffle, so I put the 8F150 in it, so when I want the warmer speaker, all I have to do is plug it in. Overall, the 8F150 is the better speaker in this amp, but a bit warm for my most used guitar. I find I like the G8C for an overall use in this little amp.

    I think you'll find the same with the 12F150, verses the other speakers.
     

  10. tho618

    tho618 TDPRI Member

    45
    May 25, 2012
    Swampscott, MA
    I had a C12N reissue I loved in a Deluxe Reverb. Chimey and woody at low volumes. A little harsh up louder.

    I might recommend the Eminence 1258. Smooth mids, tight lows and nice sparkle even up loud w a band. I feel like it was the fix to all I didn’t like in the C12N.
     

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