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Is the fender mustang combo like an FRFR?

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by klasher, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. klasher

    klasher Tele-Meister

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    Apr 26, 2003
    Harrisburg, PA
    Or is basically a regular guitar amp speaker and set up?
     

  2. Pualee

    Pualee Tele-Meister

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    Feb 5, 2014
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    The speaker is FRFR - there are "speaker models" which will make it behave like an amp speaker, or you can turn those off.
     

  3. blowtorch

    blowtorch Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    May 2, 2003
    Wisco
    OK so what is this FRFR
     
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  4. speedy mcfeely

    speedy mcfeely Tele-Meister

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    Dec 12, 2008
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    Full Range Flat Response. Like a PA or hi fi speaker.
     
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  5. mikeyb

    mikeyb Tele-Meister

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    Aug 18, 2014
    Chicago, IL
    It's like what you feed in, you get out. A modeling amp like the Mustang is the exact opposite.
     

  6. Jim Dep

    Jim Dep Friend of Leo's

    May 23, 2010
    Northern Colorado

    I don't follow ya. In what way(s) ?
    Thanks.
     

  7. BigDaddyLH

    BigDaddyLH Telefied Ad Free Member

    FRFR reefers to a speaker.
     

  8. Jim Dep

    Jim Dep Friend of Leo's

    May 23, 2010
    Northern Colorado
    Because the modeling amp emulates a wide contrast of tube amp designs, I'm pretty sure that the best known modeling amps, from most expensive to the least use speakers that try to avoid coloring the sound. Monitor cabs, PA cabs, Keyboard speaker cabs, etc.
     

  9. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Aug 17, 2012
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    The Mustangs aren't a true FRFR, they only have the single 10" or 12" driver. They're more of a guitar range "fairly" flat response.
     
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  10. rburd2

    rburd2 Tele-Afflicted

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    Georgia, US
    I believe the speaker in the Mustang III is a Celestion GT-100, a regular 12" guitar cab speaker. If I recall correctly from the Fender forum, the models are voiced for a guitar speaker and not a FRFR. Seems a little counterintuitive, but it is what it is.
     
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  11. Jim Dep

    Jim Dep Friend of Leo's

    May 23, 2010
    Northern Colorado
    A high dollar modelling amp like a Helix or Kempler...what kind of speakers do they recommend using ?
     

  12. mabley123

    mabley123 Friend of Leo's

    Aug 21, 2011
    ashland kentucky
    Most around here like the Atomic/QSC.

    My buddy who runs both a Kemper/Fractal, uses both FRFR, and guitar speaker cabinets, and a tube power amp. Its all good.

    My friend uses a Meyer MJF212 FRFR, but he's loaded, and has been collecting gear since 61.

    My 2001 Fender Cyber Twin had the Celestion GT 100, and I put 2 EV12Ls in it, and have since put 2 Celestion Creams in it. I don't care for the GT100s. NO Definition, and bland sounding.
     

  13. Silverface

    Silverface Poster Extraordinaire Platinum Supporter

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    Mar 2, 2003
    Lawndale CA
    No. It's a guitar amp with a speaker voiced for guitar.
     

  14. JCW308

    JCW308 Tele-Meister

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    Nothing, and I mean NOTHING about the Mustang III is FRFR. It's a plain old combo amp which happens to sound fantastic too!
     

  15. JCW308

    JCW308 Tele-Meister

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    Absolutely not true.
     

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