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Is a child believing in Santa Claus a thing of the past?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by FenderGyrl, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. 24 track

    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Nov 6, 2014
    kamloops bc
    my kid came home from day care one day and asked "Dad is Santa Real ?" she'd be all of about 7 yrs old, my reply to her was "do you believe in Santa?", and I suspect her not wanting to give up agood thing replied,"YeaH" I then said "Good because the day you stop believing is the day he goes away and never comes back" I squeeked out 2 more years before she let on she knew!
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2018
  2. Jakedog

    Jakedog Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 26, 2003
    The North Coast
    My youngest still believes, and the older two help her go with it. I see no harm. Only fun and good things.
  3. tery

    tery Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Sep 21, 2012
    I saw Santa at the Mall yesterday … I believe :)

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  4. Cesspit

    Cesspit Tele-Meister

    Oct 16, 2014
    Oxfordshire England
    This is all about the 'magic' of Kids and Christmas and I for one try my best to maintain that magic for as long as possible.
    As for kids growing up quicker these days, well, they may wear the trappings of adulthood but I know I was far more mature at 20 than any of my kids are at 30. A sign of these not so brilliant times.
  5. fasteddie42

    fasteddie42 Tele-Meister

    Dec 10, 2016
    Tip of the Mitt
    When I told my 10 year old to hurry up and mail her letter to santa, she replied "so mail it to you?"....

    Shes been skeptical for a few seasons and it seems she's figured it out. Similar handwriting Santa and a general cynicism about holidays and deities probably didn't help.

    No betrayal or hurt feelings. We talked it out and she seemed to understand the goodwill behind it. She recalled all of the ridiculous stuff we did to sell the illusion. Glitter boot prints/half eaten cookies/letters from santa, and thanked me and my gf for all the effort we put into it.

    While I can see the realist approach and wouldn't want to encourage or reinforce delusions, kids can only believe in magic for a short time before "growing up".
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  6. boredguy6060

    boredguy6060 Friend of Leo's

    Mar 28, 2012
    Sou Cal
    Santa Clause is alive and well in my home.
    We have two kids young enough to believe in Santa and everyone in the house, meaning the older kids, keep the secret and reinforce the myth.
    To those who believe in the magic of Santa Clause, Christmas is a magical time of wonder for them.
    Anyone who would rob a child of this very short time in their lives when their eyes lite up at the sight of Santa Clause, is just being short sighted. ( I had another adjective)
    The notion that kids are going to be traumatized when they find out that Santa is a myth is just dumb.
    Yes, one day they will grow up and the truth will come out, but until that day what does it hurt?
    Kids that are too young to grasp the complexity of world affairs have their whole life to realize that the world can be a hard cruel place, but those years when they can believe in something as wonderful as a fat man who fly’s around the world giving presents to every kid on the planet are the some of the most memorable years of their lives, why be such a rush to take that away from them?
  7. Paul Jenkin

    Paul Jenkin Friend of Leo's

    Aug 17, 2017
    Essex, UK
    I was brought up in a largely non-religious home. My mum and dad would say they we CofE if asked - but I never knew either of them go to church other than for hatches, matches and dispatches.

    I was brought up to believe in Santa Claus / Father Christmas - whatever - but was told there was no Father Christmas at the age of 5 by a kid at school.

    I lost no sleep over this once my parents had confirmed what I'd been told. It'd always seemed a bit odd to me - even as a 5 year old.

    When I got to secondary school (age 11 onwards - in 1972) I started to seriously question the basis of and enforced indoctrination of religion from an early age and one of the things I researched is where the whole Santa / Father Christmas thing came from.

    Apparently, Saint Nicholas was of Greek origin and was (is?) the patron saint of children, brewers and pawnbrokers (amongst others). I've just checked Wiki and that still seems to be the case.

    The presents thing was, from what I can gather, a form of behavioural control as kids were only to receive presents if they'd been good. Let's see parents try to apply that one....

    One thing that tickled me was when I read that Santa's red coat and hat were originally green but that the big, lovable, red-coated and corpulent version of Santa is largely down to Coca-Cola advertisements.

    Kids are growing up fast and questioning everything - and finding answers parents might not want them to find, via the internet.
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  8. nojazzhere

    nojazzhere Poster Extraordinaire

    Feb 3, 2017
    Foat Wuth, Texas
    I still believe in Santa Claus, and hope I will as long as there are people filled with the spirit of Christmas and a genuine desire for goodwill towards ALL men. (even lawyers ;))
    But as I think about it, doesn't Santa kinda epitomize much of what we caution kids to watch out for these days?....Unkempt (beard), flamboyant clothes, sketchy source of livelihood, sneaking around and withdrawn much of the year? Plus he hangs out with that "freaky" Rudolph character.....sounds like an "alternative" lifestyle if there ever was one.....;)
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  9. fendrguitplayr

    fendrguitplayr Poster Extraordinaire

    Oct 11, 2006
    Greater Boston
    Christmas is for kids, let them believe.
  10. telleutelleme

    telleutelleme Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Jan 15, 2010
    I hope not. Those memories of believing and seeing your expectations usually come true are priceless. Most people can tell great stories about that special gift that Santa brought. Some regret never having had that experience.
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  11. kelnet

    kelnet Telefied Ad Free Member

    Apr 17, 2008
    Port Moody, BC
    My brother-in-law was very angry when he found out about Santa. His response to his parents was, "And I guess you lied about God, too, didn't you?"
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  12. flatout9

    flatout9 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

    Aug 6, 2009
    Houston, TX
    That's cool. My 7 yr old LOVES Christmas and the flipping Elf on the shelves is about to kill me. But she loves it and so I'm happy to oblige... Their inoccent years pass so quick and I don't want to look back and feel like I deprived her of that magic.
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  13. dan1952

    dan1952 Friend of Leo's

    Jun 24, 2004
    Anderson, IN
    This. Please and thanks.
  14. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 11, 2006
    Near Athens GA USA
    Santa is a great introduction for kids on how quantum physics and the Cashmere effect works.
  15. MrCairo46

    MrCairo46 Friend of Leo's

    At our house if you don’t believe in Santa all you get for Christmas is Sox and underwear.
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  16. brookdalebill

    brookdalebill Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

    Nov 15, 2009
    Austin, Tx
  17. El Marin

    El Marin Tele-Holic

    Mar 19, 2014
    Madrid, Spain, EU
    I am an atheist, so my wife. We decided not to lie our daughters. Sooner or later they would have known. They are 7 and 3 today...

    You know what? they have the same illusion than the other kids and is funny when small kids talk about Santa or other "gift imaginary creators" Here in Spain we have The 3 wise men. "los reyes magos" and many ancient others even before the Romans, and they look at me smiling and wink and eye. I told them that is a tradition and some parents decide to lie to their sons and not to tell everybody the truth but is up to them to do it or not
  18. Utah Joe

    Utah Joe TDPRI Member

    Jun 2, 2015
    Golden Valley, MN
    When my daughter was about 3 she looked at me one day and said “Is Santa in our world?” I took that to mean that she was trying to figure out if he was real or not. She’ll be 9 at the end of the month and if she has any doubts she’s not letting on.
  19. Sollipsist

    Sollipsist Tele-Afflicted

    Aug 25, 2016
    On the other hand, it's pretty much an essential thing to learn. Maybe that's the whole point? Give the kid some hint that adults aren't perfect and the world is full of lies. If you can think of a happy fun way to teach this to kids, be my guest.

    The truth has very little virtue beyond the fact that it's true. Truth is neither fair nor nice. It's certainly not helpful in many circumstances. Most of our ideas and systems are based on nothing fundamentally true. Nevertheless, many if them generate more substantial value than any number of sticklers for truth.

    If your child can develop some kind of a complex understanding of that, it's for the best. There's too many simpletons, puritans, and extremists already.
  20. deytookerjaabs

    deytookerjaabs Friend of Leo's

    Jun 5, 2015
    If you think Santa is dead I'm guessing you haven't seen the lines at the mall the past few years.

    Far as I can tell Santa is killin' it.
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