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I weep for the future

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by soulgeezer, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    In anther thread, I asked folks here to identify a song that my band covered back in the 1980s. So far, no one has been able to. This led me to ask the following in that thread, which I think is fodder for thread of its own:

    I guess things like that forgotten song are illustrations of an axion that I created a number of years ago:

    If it happened before the advent of the Internet and nobody in the intervening years has bothered to post it online, then it never really happened.

    The loss of that song is really a comment on how our collective memory has been affected in the last twenty years by the World Wide Web. There are many examples of this phenomena that I can cite, as my little axiom wasn't born in a vacuum.

    I'm sure you have some examples of things that happened pre-Internet that are now forgotten or, at the very least, unprovable, because there is no evidence of them online. And, of course, that means that we die, all memory of those things dies with us.

    Is this what Orwell was illustrating with the Ministry of Truth? Or, Huxley in his Brave New World?

    I weep for the future.
     
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  2. Frfly

    Frfly TDPRI Member

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    NYC
    We had even fewer records before the internet
    tons of tv programs were recorded over by the bbc or just lost, now they have digital records of everything
    there are tons of early films that no longer exist because they caught fire or disintegrated or nobody thought they'd be worth saving
    before records, no performance was recorded in a way that could be listened to by others at a later date

    we know shakespeare and ben jonson but we don't have all their plays and many of their contemporaries have been lost to time

    a lot of the world is just for today
     
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  3. alnicopu

    alnicopu Friend of Leo's

    Oct 3, 2009
    georgia
    To almost all of my friends, musicians and not, who are in their late 50’s as I, the 80’s were pretty much the dark ages of music. As unmemorable as the myriad of MTV videos of scantily clad women in cages swaying to said music.
     
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  4. Manual Slim

    Manual Slim Tele-Holic

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    Mar 21, 2017
    Baltimore
    Or, it could be that people just don’t recognize the song.
     
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  5. brookdalebill

    brookdalebill Telefied Ad Free Member

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    Nov 15, 2009
    Austin, Tx
    Me too, cause I ain’t gonna be in it.
     
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  6. dsutton24

    dsutton24 Poster Extraordinaire Gold Supporter

    Dec 29, 2010
    Illinois
    You are on the verge of tears because we can't divine a song you did thirty-plus years ago, but you can so blithely ignore your spell checker? Some of this stuff you have to do for yourself.
     
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  7. 3fngrs

    3fngrs Friend of Leo's

    Oct 30, 2017
    Ohio
    I'm in my 50's and I loved the eighties. Except for the ugly cars.

    I'd go back to 1983 in a minute.
     

  8. bftfender

    bftfender Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 21, 2017
    York PA
    i am 53 and you just stole my whole decade...lol...the metal in early part as it started to get heavier..ahh..the dayz...the cages and yes they were in cages in the clubs...soon as the jcm800 started getting modded to lead us to crunch crunch...wait..in my world..its still like this..so i aint missing nothin..just living the 80's dream many years later
     

  9. dsutton24

    dsutton24 Poster Extraordinaire Gold Supporter

    Dec 29, 2010
    Illinois
    Just out of curiosity I looked up the sound clip of the song you're searching for. That song being lost to the mists of time is one thing that makes me optimistic about the future.
     
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  10. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    It was a typo. Geez.

    Mea culpa. Cool?
     
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  11. william tele

    william tele Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Nov 7, 2009
    Kansas City, MO
    Before the internet ever showed it's face, people such as yourself (educated and rational) must have known that recorded history is, as an average, 50% accurate at best. This is my own axiom...:)

    When I consider all the history that is 100% bull**** it's easy to see why the total isn't better...
     
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  12. televillian

    televillian Tele-Holic

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    Oct 3, 2013
    Clarkdale, AZ
    the future is now
     

  13. Artslap

    Artslap Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

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    Mar 17, 2014
    Sydney, Australia
    Funny, seeing your avatar I thought you were talking about English football...

    Back to topic, it's quite possible it's the other way around. An accessible record of many recordings exist because of the web.

    It does strike me though, in the era of fake news we are living post 1984.

    Don't worry though it's all double plus good...

    CP.
     

  14. getbent

    getbent Telefied Ad Free Member

    oh I know the name of that song... I just didn't want to ring in on it.
     

  15. nojazzhere

    nojazzhere Friend of Leo's

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    Feb 3, 2017
    Foat Wuth, Texas
    Geez....can't you even spell "tea cup" correctly?....;)
     
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  16. drf64

    drf64 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Jul 24, 2009
    Ada, MI
    Brutal.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    I think you meant "coffee mug"! :D
     
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  18. scrapyardblue

    scrapyardblue Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Feb 6, 2007
    central illinois
    Nothing against that harder stuff, but could it be that a good chunk of the demographic here wouldn't have given that song (or music like it) more than a 15 second listen? I wouldn't weep for the future on account of this instance.

    Now, if they couldn't identify cousin Marilyn from the Munsters.......
     
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  19. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    Sinatra's World
    Which one? :p
     
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  20. Manual Slim

    Manual Slim Tele-Holic

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    Mar 21, 2017
    Baltimore
    Where’s the spelling error?
     

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