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I think there is something wrong with the neck

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by opiate, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. opiate

    opiate TDPRI Member

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    Hi guys! Well the problem is that the action is WAAAAY too high.See its not a default neck and i bought it separately... it is the same scale 25,5 and whatnot but its very annoying to play. here are some pictures

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26599070/Telefon/2012-10-15 21.36.35.jpg


    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26599070/Telefon/2012-10-15 21.36.03.jpg


    See how its getting ALOT worse while going up the frets...

    Can it be that the neck butt itself is not very straight in the sense that it would need a shim under a certain location?


    THANKS IN ADVANCE!
     
  2. guitarzan13

    guitarzan13 Friend of Leo's

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    The nut slots are not cut deep enough, to start with....At least it appears that way.
     
  3. opiate

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    Oh and the saddles are totally down.
     
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    guitarzan13 Friend of Leo's

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    Yes... a shim will be needed.
     
  6. walleyeman

    walleyeman Tele-Holic

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    I second that opinion.

    Also, a little shim will go a long ways. I like business cards, skate board tape, or old credit cards.
     
  7. MrTwang

    MrTwang Friend of Leo's

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    What does it look like at the bridge end.

    If you hold a string down at about the 2nd fret and also the 19th, does it lie completely flat along the neck or if you pluck between those frets does it sound a note. (This might be easier if you use a capo on the second fret so you don't run out of hands).
     
  8. vonasemj

    vonasemj Tele-Meister

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    The nut does look a bit high. If you hold the strings down at the third fret, is there a considerable gap between the bottom of the string and the first fret? There should be a really tiny gap if the nut is cut to the proper height. You may also need to place a shim in the neck pocket at the end closest to the pickup. Something as thin as a business card should help.
     
  9. opiate

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    Yeah the nut is okay it seems... there is a REALLY tiny gap on the first fret when i push down the third fret.Wow you guys are so helpful its amazing! So il just cut a credit card toa proper size and put it under there... closest to the pickup then!
     
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    well didnt improve as much as i had wanted but il just tape 2 of those credit card shims together and then add to the neck pocket... then it should be just right.
     
  11. soulman969

    soulman969 Doctor of Teleocity

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    You may want to find some thinner shim stock in case two layers are too much. Business cards tend to be thinner and will even compress a bit whereas the plastic in a business card won't. But you're working in the right direction so go with whatever works best.
     
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    When making a shim you should maybe consider making it the full width and length of the cavity otherwhys there will be quite a big air gap between the nck and body. I did this on my bass by using the packaging from dunlop strings and masking tape. I used a piece of the packet that covered the whole slot, than built up layers o it at the end of the slot. Than for the rest of it I used masking tape and some more card(depending on how much younuse at the end of the slot) and masking tape to create a nice taper. This is much better than having an air gap. Some believe this can also make the sustain and tone better as you dont have an air gap. But anyway...
     
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    go back to the nut after you shimmed - the strings look too high off the frets
    i use hobby shop 12mm brass bar for shims- you can buy it in various thickness from real thin to thick [1/8"] - you don't need much thickness - just clip off enough to go across the pocket at the back
     
  14. MickM

    MickM Friend of Leo's

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    Posted this before but the brass blades on some feeler gauges are easy to trim and have the thickness embossed on each blade. The steel blades however are a real PIA to cut.

    If you don't do your own nut tweaking yet, here's a link to a good tutorial from member Kennedycaster. Just read ahead to the part dealing with the depth of the nut slots. Good luck!http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/276101-makin-your-own-nuts-tutorial.html
     
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    I agree not slots are either too shallow or too narrow (so that the strings won't go to the bottom of the slots).
     
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    Yes it appears that a shim is in order. So that you do not have as much in the way of air gaps you can take the shim that you find to be the right one at the heel or very back part of the neck, lightly clamp the neck down to a table for example, with the edge of the table located in the same spot as the edge of the body would be, and then be able to find shims that fit in the in between areas.
     
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    OP Has not posted in this thread for 7 days....I guess he solved it
     
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