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I got "gypped" is a racial slur

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by ghall, Dec 22, 2012.

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  1. ghall

    ghall Tele-Meister

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    Feb 16, 2010
    Massachusetts
    I have seen the term "gypped" just too many times in posts on the forum to not say anything. The term is offensive because it equates the Gypsy, or Roma peoples, with being thieves, cheats and con artists. I realize that the vast majority of people are unaware of the origins of the term and use it innocently. I hope that fewer people will use the term and please don't let it pass without mention. I had to get this off my chest.
     
  2. ADinNYC

    ADinNYC Friend of Leo's

    Jan 2, 2010
    New York City
  3. trev333

    trev333 Doctor of Teleocity

    I was aware of the connection... it was never a word to get used in Oz much....

    I can't say if I've ever noticed the word on any posts I remember?...
     
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  5. william tele

    william tele Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 7, 2009
    Kansas City, MO
    What if I told you the term gypped came into popularity around the time of the Klondike goldrush? Prospective miners were required to have a certain and specific quantity of supplies and one of those quantities was a 200 lb. sack of flour. These provisions were checked by the Mounties as the propecters crossed the mountains into the Klondike. Some of these miners found that rather than a full 200 lbs of flour, thier sacks might be half filled with another highly available powder found near the Klondike...gypsum. Yep, they got gypped...
     
  6. ROADMAN

    ROADMAN Poster Extraordinaire

    thieves ,cheats and con-artists....I thought we weren't allowed to talk about politicians
     
  7. telefunken

    telefunken Friend of Leo's

    Dec 27, 2004
    North Hollywood
    I heard the same...........not everything is a racial slur:rolleyes:
     
  8. kelnet

    kelnet Doctor of Teleocity

    Apr 17, 2008
    Port Moody, BC
    If you did tell me that, I wouldn't believe you.
    You're going to have to provide some sources for your definition. I've never heard of this origin. Every authoritative dictionary lists the "Gypsy" origin.
     
  9. Slow Reflexes

    Slow Reflexes Poster Extraordinaire

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    Nov 17, 2007
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    Sometimes a spade is just a spade? :D

    According to Merriam-Webster, "gyp" was in use as a noun in England as much as a hundred years prior to the Klondike rush - so that seems an unlikely root.
     
  10. Badabing

    Badabing Friend of Leo's

    Oct 13, 2009
    San Marcos, Ca
    So we can't talk about goldminers either...??...:confused:
     
  11. kelnet

    kelnet Doctor of Teleocity

    Apr 17, 2008
    Port Moody, BC
    Ouch. Although it's a clever pun, it's just not right.
     
  12. telefunken

    telefunken Friend of Leo's

    Dec 27, 2004
    North Hollywood
    Now THAT'S funny!!!:D:D
     
  13. Slow Reflexes

    Slow Reflexes Poster Extraordinaire

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    Sorry. I just hate when people get up in arms over calling a spade a spade - because it's a dang shovel and has been for hundreds of years.
     
  14. Jim Beam

    Jim Beam Tele-Meister

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    Sep 25, 2012
    New Mexico
    it might be justified...

    when these Romani people first appeared in Europe, it was believed that they came from Egypt, that is where the term "gypsies" originated. And equating that with getting ripped off or cheated is fully justified, as the Romani people then and now have a deserved reputation for deception and thievery.
     
  15. JDC

    JDC Tele-Holic

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    May 9, 2003
    Las Vegas, Nevada
    I may be guilty of have spoken that, when I was a child (doesn't "he gypped me" sound too whiny for an adult to use?) but it just occurred to me that I've never written it in a forum or anywhere else because looking at the word, I wouldn't have known how to spell it.

    That said, I'd also never nave connected the two until you mentioned it.
     
  16. I need a rule of thumb for decided whether something is offensive or not.
     
  17. telefunken

    telefunken Friend of Leo's

    Dec 27, 2004
    North Hollywood
    If it's not "Obvious" and you didn't mean it "That" way.......it's not offensive.
     
  18. kelnet

    kelnet Doctor of Teleocity

    Apr 17, 2008
    Port Moody, BC
    I know what you're saying. However, your post made a direct reference to the derogatory use of the word, taking it just over that proverbial line.
    But yes, I have a garden spade in my shed.
     
  19. kelnet

    kelnet Doctor of Teleocity

    Apr 17, 2008
    Port Moody, BC
    If one is going to be offensive, one should do it completely and wholeheartedly. None of this "I don't mean to be offensive" nonsense.

     
  20. Comanche

    Comanche TDPRI Member

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    Sep 3, 2012
    Arizona
    I guess I have to stop using, "stop trying to Jew me down." too?
     
  21. jbmando

    jbmando Poster Extraordinaire

    deleted - wrong.
     
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