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I Am Done Buying Guitars - I Have Top Guitar From Top 4 Guitar Manufacturers

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by taxer, Feb 2, 2013.

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  1. BeboRock91

    BeboRock91 Tele-Meister

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    in the end, the thread about what's "best" could've been a good one, even if it comes down to be a subject of philosophy more than guitars.

    To me, there is no absolute best, but the personal best, and I understand that many on this forum think alike. To the OP, from what I understood, there is one objectively best but it is based on subjective experience (given that I respect that one may think there is an absolute best, there is some kind of flawed logic in here...)

    Nothing new, but I just wanted to add my facts... err... opinions on the thread.
     

  2. 62 Jazzmaster

    62 Jazzmaster Friend of Leo's

    I thought that the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything was 42, not 4.
     

  3. TDPRI

    TDPRI Administrator Staff Member

    Mar 2, 2003
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    The major problem with this thread and the contentions of the OP is his inability to see that his opinions are not FACTS. By his wording and his repeated insistence he's attempting to make everyone agree with his opinions. And that's never going to happen.

    Posters ALWAYS do better when they give others room to think and feel differently. And, when they don't it rankles a great many people.

    For example, I don't agree that the OP's four guitars are the "flagship" of each brand. I think they are great. I think it's great he's pleased. But am I wrong because I don't agree with him? Nope. His is just one man's opinion. No more right or wrong than mine.

    So, lighten up Francis. You got some guitars. They're great. Congrats.

    By the way, here's what the rules say about this matter:

     

  4. Gnobuddy

    Gnobuddy Friend of Leo's

    Sep 15, 2010
    British Columbia
    Too true. Replace "posters" with "humans" and you have a statement that applies to every person living on this planet, and not just on an internet forum. It's a life lesson, not just a question of forum etiquette.
    Ditto. Nice guitars, and I'm glad he's happy with them.

    Not that I think it matters a pesky rodents rearend whether the guitars a person plays are "flagship" models or not. The happiness you get from your guitars is likely to last much longer if it's based on your personal enjoyment of those guitars rather than their "flagship status" in some advertising executives eyes. Kinda like marrying your true love is a lot more likely to last than marrying someone because she was voted Miss Californa by a group of strangers.

    -Gnobuddy
     

  5. goldtopper

    goldtopper Friend of Leo's

    Dec 30, 2005
    Liberal Lakes
    Flagship (adjective) in sentence: The Titanic was the flagship of the White Star line.
     

  6. taxer

    taxer Banned

    May 11, 2009
    new york
    Yeah, but that begs the question: can't Miss California be someone's true love?
    Can't someone be extremely happy and in love with flagship guitars they own and play?
     

  7. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    A guitar's ranking in the company lineup shouldn't make any difference to the person that owns and plays it, unless the status aspect is just as important as the musical part.
     

  8. hopper

    hopper Tele-Meister

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  9. setneckredneck

    setneckredneck Banned

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    Don't forget the Larry Carlton ES347.
    It's an OK guitar, I guess.

    Also, you have to get a 'beat up modded bastard guitar'. Without a modded guitar you're just a wannabe collector. Am I right?
     

  10. setneckredneck

    setneckredneck Banned

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    Guitars weren't meant to be played. Just ask that Les Paul guy.. Nobody knows who he is, but he has a TON of signature guitars.

    Guitars are for collectors. They're the new baseball cards.


    (Dear higher power/God, please let used guitar values plummet as deeply as sports memorabilia in the early-to-mid 90's. Also, thanks for making everyone, eventually, realize PRS and Creed were terrible. Sincerely, Agnostic)




    I kid, I kid.
     

  11. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    I used to get a kick out of the responses I received on the old PRS forum when I talked about gigging my '90 Custom, and all the dings that it had on it. :D
     

  12. setneckredneck

    setneckredneck Banned

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    Yes! I didn't have a 'nice' PRS. Mine was a '97 or '98. It sounded good and had the real bird inlay and rotary switch. But, it wasn't anything I want to play again. It was just different, and expensive, and made me feel cool. (I wasn't cool.)
     

  13. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    I bought mine specifically to gig with. The five-way selector got me close enough for most of the covers we did, and the trems on those guitars are outstanding as far as staying in tune even after divebombing.

    I still have that guitar, and it sure is showing it's mileage, but it's still just as comfortable as ever. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it.
     

  14. setneckredneck

    setneckredneck Banned

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    Mine was a '97 or '98 model. It stunk. It had a green flame maple top. Don't get me wrong, it was a well-made guitar. But, it wasn't a pre- '95s guitar. Compared to other guitars it was, actually nice, but overpriced.

    Tell me if I'm wrong, but PRS went from duplicarve tops to CNC/Korea/China manufacturing in 1995.

    I wish I had that money back today.
     

  15. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    PRS did go from duplicarvers to CNC machines around '95 when they moved to the new location, but all non-SE PRS guitars are still made in Maryland (the SE line is Korean).
     

  16. setneckredneck

    setneckredneck Banned

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    It's Frederick, MD. That's where Flying Dog brewery started, too.

    I've got 7 'Handmade in South Korea' guitars. Don't knock 'em. haha
     

  17. Frodebro

    Frodebro Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    The country of origin has little bearing on the quality of the guitar, it all comes down to the specs set by the company and what price point they are aiming for.
     

  18. setneckredneck

    setneckredneck Banned

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  19. Gnobuddy

    Gnobuddy Friend of Leo's

    Sep 15, 2010
    British Columbia
    If she was his true love, he wouldn't care that she was Miss California. That's not why he loves her. That's just somebody else's opinion. And titles don't last - she won't be Miss California ever again, but she'll still be your true love, which is what matters thirty years later when the Miss California award is nothing but a distant memory.
    Sure, but if they loved the guitars, it wouldn't matter if they were "flagship" or not.

    You have some very nice guitars. Enjoy them. And don't worry if they're flagships or not. It really doesn't matter a jot one way or the other.

    -Gnobuddy
     

  20. Colo Springs E

    Colo Springs E Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Colorado Springs
    Actually Flying Dog started out in Aspen, Colorado.
     

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