How to brighten up a muddy tele?

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  1. Gutterguy

    Gutterguy TDPRI Member

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    I have a new tele with pau ferro fretboard. It is stock except for treble bleed and 4 way. My older tele has a 4 way and lil’ ‘59 Seymour and Rio Grande Dirty Harry in Neck. It is Muddier than the New one. My description of the new one is “Quacky”. The new one has 500k pots. Can I brighten the tone up of the old one with 250k pots?
     
  2. rickthescot

    rickthescot Tele-Meister

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    250K pots are going to send you in the wrong direction. Higher value = brighter tone.
     
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  3. Antoon

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    A change from 250k to 500k (or even 1 meg) will brighten it up considerably. In my own tele the tone control is also disconnected from the neck pickup. That makes the neck pickup also brighter.
     
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    rze99 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Bit confused.

    Which one is muddy?

    If you have a treble bleed already, and 250 pots then you should be good.

    I have a Fender Tele with a Seymour Duncan humbucker in the neck that is disconnected from the tone pot and that is nice and bright and big.
     
  5. stratoman1

    stratoman1 Tele-Afflicted

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    Try adjusting pickup heights
     
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    rangercaster Friend of Leo's

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    Pick up height and string type are cheap solutions ... Other than that i got nuthin'...
     
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    kelnet Telefied Ad Free Member

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    Turn the knobs on the amp. :D
     
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    What kind of bridge saddles does it have? I've found that the classic brass-type have more "twang!" than the modern 6 saddle system.
     
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  9. rich815

    rich815 Friend of Leo's

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    Was coming here to ask that too. Maybe consider trying steel saddles too. I have them on my Fender 50’s Road Worn and love them. Some people replace those on their RW and sell them fairly cheap. Otherwise pickup height might help too or different strings.
     
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  10. Gutterguy

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    Newer type saddles on older one. The older one, 2016 Mexi-Tele has the Seymour and rio grande pickups. The older one has 500 pots and 4 way. I want to brighten it up. What would a start? I have new strings and pickups at a comfortable height.
     
  11. rich815

    rich815 Friend of Leo's

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    Maybe one of these?

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    El Tele Lobo Friend of Leo's

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    I would change the pickups in the older one to something brighter. Those are very hot pickups. Maybe try something like a Cavalier Nashville/Lion King set.
     
  13. Andy Summers

    Andy Summers Friend of Leo's

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    I’m with Rich815 on the EQ pedal. I just bought a 10 band EQ pedal for 30.00 used because I had credit to burn after a return..for 30 bucks I figured, wtf and I could use it as a clean boost. Got it home, plugged it in and it was literally like playing a new rig! It was, like they say, pulling a blanket off the amp. And I never had any complaints about the amp beforehand. I can tailor any tone with that thing. I have never had any pedal make that much difference in tone before.

    If it’s an option for you, give one a try.
     
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  14. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity

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    Keep raising the pups, experiment. Have the treble side 1/16"-1/8" higher than the bass (low E end)
     
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    In the EQ camp or some kind of boost pedal, I use an OCD with the drive almost all the way down and tone all the way up.
     
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    higher kohm volume pot = brighter. use an ohm meter to measure actual pot kohms, they vary up to 20%.

    lower pickups get cleaner and clearer.


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    Raising pickups usually increases mids which is what a lot of people refer to as mud. So I would lower them. Agree on low strings side lower.
     
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  18. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity

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    I doubt one can hear 50 Ω either way.
     
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    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity

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    Oh crap, good catch, I was upside down on that deal .........must be Friday :confused:
     
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    Put in a set of Fender Pure Vintage '64 pickups. They cost $98 and sound like a million bucks, bright, clear and not ice-picky.
     
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