How old is the Fender Super Reverb I just bought

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  1. brogh

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    465 oxford - 38 week of 68 :)

    was this checked by a tech ? cap job etc ? if not please do, you never know who pout hands in there.

    ciao
     
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  2. comax

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    Hi telemnemonics , could you please give me an example of ''cloth wiring'' you mentioned?
    Maybe do you have a pic of it?
    Thanks in advance!!
     
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    Yes it has been checked by experts and i am not gonna put my hands on the circuitry and components!! Thanks for your warning!
     
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    Thanks Brogh also for the expanation regarding the codes on speakers lables.
    Best regards
     
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    BobbyZ Doctor of Teleocity

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    Checked by experts at the store you bought it from? Or someone you had look at it?
    Stores tend to proclaim amps "checked out, in good working order" if they make a guitar louder. Big difference between that and an amp working right.
    Post some gut shots and a shot under the "dog house" , if you can do it safely.
    Caps hold a charge so don't touch anything.
     
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    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity

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    I’d have to open up an amp to show the cloth wired amps but here are some old Fender pickups with the same wire as used in the amps. Your late ‘68 probably has the plastic insulated wire, Fender switched to plastic I guess when they ran out of the cloth wire some time in later 1968. Both guitars and amps changed though it seems like they kept using scraps of cloth for the speaker wire a little longer.

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    Wow...what a score. Hope you're young and strong. ;)
     
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    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity

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    I posted a pic from my ipad because the camera is quicker, but when I quote the pic never seems to show up.
    These details are more about rarer vs more common and collector value, but the amps should pretty much sound the same.

    I wonder though about the Oxford ceramic speakers?
    I've always seen the CTS alnicos from the late '60s to the later '70s, and think of the Oxfords as earlier '60s BFSR speakers.
    Maybe Fender put the Oxfords in the export amps?
    I was guessing that maybe they were late '70s replacements, but @brogh checked the codes and found them to be '68.
     
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    I have a '74/'75-ish Super Reverb (45 Watt/Master Vol.), and it has factory Oxfords on board. Good speakers.
     
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    Yeah I was thinking they switched back to Oxfords in the later '70s, and have liked some Oxford 12s I've had. The CTS alnicos make a SR a good 10lbs lighter, which is nice. I used to think the CTS were less good because the older BF had the Oxfords, but it seems some stuff didn't get worse as the years went by.

    I can't recall seeing Oxfords in a '67- '72 SR though.
    They probably handle the power better.
     
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    Great get!!! You’ll probably want at least casters if not a cart! But you’re unlikely to ever need a bigger amp.

    There are a couple of non-invasive mods you can do. For example, pull the V1 tube (normal channel) to give the vibrato channel better gain.
     
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    Yeah, I had remarked once how much I like the sound of those speakers in my amp, and was somewhat surprised since Oxfords of that era get a bad rap. Someone chimed in and said that the 10" Oxford never underwent the changes the 12" models did (widening of voice coil gap, I believe) that caused people to not like them. Mine sound sweet, indeed.
     
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    Oh... resoconto! Now I know the Italian word for reverb. Thanks!
     
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    Thanks B
    Actually the store owner told me that it was checked by an expert , I feel he is sincere. Anyway caution is always necessary, I fully agree!
    Sorry , what do you mean with "under the dog house"?
    IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ME: how long , in your opinion caps hold the charge after the amp has been switched off?
     
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    Has anybody pictures of the user manual of Super Reverb Amp?
     
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    The "doghouse" is the domed housing for the capacitors. This is a picture with it taken off. It would be good if you could get the date codes of the capacitors to check age, as well as for any leakage or bulging.

    If they look like the ones in this picture, they are likely original and need replacement.

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    Amazed that no one even mentioned the tube chart.
     
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    Don’t tube chart date codes cease after April ‘67 or so ?
     
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