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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by eddiewagner, May 23, 2006.
EVERY PSG player I know is off-kilter.
(Most of them are proud of it.)
As a guitar player I thought that I could pick it up no problem. Wrong!! It's really a different animal altogether. Chord inversions are not really similarlly located. For me the bottom line was lack of time to play it. To me its like fiddle players you are either real good or stay home and practice, no middle ground. Just my experience.
I dabbled in pedal steel guitar in the early 80's. I found it fairly easy to learn basic stuff on. But I also think it is one of the most difficult instruments to truly master. Guys like Buddy Emmons are the elite of the elite. True, genuine, bona fide, certified, parking space validated, monster player.
Hey Lerb, are you still playing the Carter?
But to paraphrase Jerry Garcia, I would need a whole other lifetime to learn how to play it.
Funny, I love his unconventional pedal steel style.
When my Grandma died, I was left a small sum of money, with which I bought a used Carter Starter from Billy Cooper in Orange, Va, which is near me.
Some day I hope to give it its due, but until then it waits in its case. Way too much going on now to get to it.
I bought one years ago for almost nothing because it didn't work. Got it home and found a broken wire to the output. Fixed that, it was fine. This was back before computers! It was a chore finding out how to tune it.
I got it tuned up...and spent about three months driving my family nuts. I don't remember how many pedals and levers and strings it had....but I realized that after spending hours upon hours of trying to figure it out, it was not for me. I sold it for like 3 times what I got it for.
I now have a high admiration for those that can play one.
Easy to learn, hard to master.
Yup! I've still got that MIM 50's Classic Esquire Bridge Pickup in it too.
I recently bought a Fender 1000/2000 Pedal Steel pickup from the early 60's. It's too wide for the pickup route so I'm trying to discover the best method of installation.
You don't need no stink'n pedals
Red and Cindy kickin' it.
I can never decide if I want to learn pedal steel, or learn to fly a helicopter. Seriously though, I think if you really like it, you should go for it because love of sound can conquer the physical challenges. I've only sat at one once and it reminded me of playing drums a little, though more intricate with the picking hand. I think it's do-able, though I haven't done it. Also, think of the work you could get if you became competent at it. Guitar players are less than a penny per dozen. PSG's? Endangered species.
I've always wanted to learn. I absoutely love the sound of pedal steel. I just can't afford one, not even a cheaper one, right now. I will probably get a lap steel relatively soon, as soon as I can come up with around an extra $200.00. I play a decent amount of slide in open tunings and standard. So i think i ca make the transition to lap steel. I've only played one once, a month or two ago. It wa stuned in open g and I just hit some of my regular slide licks on it and it wasn't bad at all. Could have been better. But not bad. I want to check out those jazzy 6 tunings though. Of course, I have far from mastered the guitar. So I have to ask myself, do I want to be mediocre at multiple instruments, or really good at one?
You got to:
...pick the proper 3 strings out of the 10 available...
...and use your audio pitch talent to place the bar over the proper faux-fret...
...and step on one, sometimes two pedals...
...and push a lever with your knee to the right or the left...
...and use the volume pedal to keep the sound ringing...
all at the same time for EACH AND EVERY chord.
Not to mention the difficulty of playing a melody during the solo...
And my money says he still can't play the thing.
Pedal steel players are born, not made, I swear.
Normal humans can't even play a B-Bender.
Years ago I remember thinking "can someone please explain this large wooden necklace I'm wearing?"
How hard is playing a pedal steel in reality?
Not as hard as preventing new members from resurrecting almost 6 year old zombies ...
This is interesting. My pop has a saying, "it takes ten years to get ten years of experience."
Based on some of the people I've worked with, I'd modify that to it taking AT LEAST ten years.
2000 hours is roughly one year of "full time" work.
we're kind of pondering the whole zombie thing... so, stand by... sorry to appear like we're not consistent, we're just trying to figure out the best paths... we get that it is an old thread...
Fine with me ... I can easily see how it's a losing battle.
Won't mention "zombie" again - unless Paul decides to stick to his current decision that is ...