Hollow body LP? Solid Body LP? Dunno, both I guess

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by Muzikp, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. RickyRicardo

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    Great idea Rick. I like it. Drywall screws are a necessity for guitar builders..
     
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    Upon closer reading and examination of the photos, I think I must amend this explanation. James did indeed fabricate a new dovetail piece to fit the dovetail pocket, which I assumed he would then glue, maybe with dowels, to the neck, then reset the neck as done originally. However, it appears James has replaced the dovetail piece attached to the neck with a tenon, not a dovetail, and has glued the dovetail piece into the dovetail socket in the body, and will machine a mortise into the dovetail block, to match the tenon. This means there will be no dovetail to hold the neck into the body, only a small tenon, much too small to hold with glue alone. Obviously, James is going to use large drywall screws to hold the neck to the body.

    This makes me very happy, as James is a master craftsman, so when I am able to guess how he will effect a repair, it means that I, too, am becoming a master craftsman!:cool::cool::):)
     
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    Aha! That was my guess. But I'll wait to see about the drywall screws.
     
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    With the tenon glued into a soon-to-be-revealed matching receptacle in the dovetail portion, it becomes a new perfectly-matching dovetail on the neck. I think this modular approach is brilliant!
     
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    My guess is that he's converting it to a bolt on.
     
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    Brainy definitely would have contorted that statement into something about the superiority of a strap-on vs a bolt on but I would never go there.
     
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    Bingo! :)
     
  8. Muzikp

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    Hey I didn't know there was conversation going on in here.

    Ok so it's going to be a double dovetail. I shaped the part of the neck I kept into a slight dovetail, much less than 10 degrees like you typically see but I did want some dovetail. So I will make a dovetail inside the piece I matched to the body and glue it to the neck. Then I can reset the neck with the bigger dovetail that I already made. That probably makes no sense. I'll go out to the shop and take some more pics.
     
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    You told is to talk...
     
  10. Muzikp

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    It's hard to tell but I've shaped this into a dovetail, or sloped the sides I guess.

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    Now I need to make a matching dovetail in the piece I'm holding which will glue to the neck.

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    It will fit tight against the heel of the neck so lot's of gluing surface. Once that's glued on I can reset the neck like any normal dovetail neck set.

    Make any sense now?
     
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    Yeh I know but I never got a notification that you actually listened :lol:. Carry on.
     
  12. Muzikp

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    This is a for reals archtop, and archback as well. Not easily duplicated in a garage but several here have done it and documented it well.
     
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    Carved or pressed ply?
     
  14. Muzikp

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    3 piece pressed ply.
     
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    Slotting the... thing.

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    That's a good start on that, need to slope the sides of it to match what I did on the neck.
     
  16. RogerC

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    Nice work, James! Pretty clever fix.
     
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    Ah yes I see, the mating doves technique. Very Brainy.
     
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    Thanks Rog. I think I can see the end of the neck reset in sight, then I can tackle that reinforced truss rod cover dilemma.
     
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    I'm way late on this thread, but I've read all the way through. Excellent all the way around!

    But one question, what will happen with the hollowbody LP???
     
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    Oh that's right, we were building a hollow body LP :lol:. I don't have any plans at the moment to finish it mostly because I still don't like the carve on the top and it's too thin to fix the carve. I need to run that thing thru the drum sander and make a new top then I might get excited to work on it again.
     
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