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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by hemingway, Jan 2, 2018.
Even the electric guys occasionally pick up an acoustic.
I learned how to play ( 45 years ago now) on the Acoustic and absolutely love it!
I kind of gig 50/50 acoustic/ electric these days ( used to be all electric blues 20 years ago, but my styles have just become much broader), and I really play only acoustic at home- every day!
The acoustic guitar hate is hard to take, because they're just different. I learned on an old Epiphone acoustic, with low action. I learned flat picking and finger picking as a teenager. This has only enhanced my electric playing. I love all the little open chords that go with acoustic guitar playing.
I currently have an acoustic/electric Alvarez with a Fishman preamp, that allows the use of a cardioid microphone and mixes with the piezo bridge for a superior amplified acoustic sound through an amp.
A buddy willed me a D-16GT dreadnought Martin that is cannon of bass. I'm weighing options for amplification now.
I can't tell you I hate the acoustic because it enhanced my playing on the electrics. I now have an archtop that can be played as an acoustic, with flatwound strings, that I love. I actually have GAS for a nylon stringed acoustic/electric for jazz numbers, that solidbodies or semihollows sound cannot do justice.
It easier to hate, than to pick up an acoustic and figure what others love about them. Do yourself a favor and expand your mind, instead of dispensing your particular version of hate for the roots of your electric guitar. My hands are down because I appreciate the acoustic for what it gave me.
I typically like other people playing them, and even then only when they sound really good. I just have this "image" stuck in my memory of the sound of those crappy plastic-backed acoustics being played with thin picks and that horrible shrill sound that it takes a really nice sounding one to make me think I'd want it in my house. The Takamine that I have is fine for noodling but I'd probably never record it or take it to a gig.
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I need and love both equally!!! I go thru periods of playing just one or the other, but have never even considered playing guitar without having both great acoustic and electric guitars. They go hand in hand, compliment each other....I don't understand why some feel they must choose one or the other....you DON'T!!
+1 "I need and love both equally." - rjtwangs
I like em. My acoustics come in different sizes, shapes, materials, tunings. While I’m primarily a fingerpicker they get strummed as well, and there’s a fair amount of slide included. They don’t all sound the same to me.
But no argument that once you get off the couch and plug in an acoustic, you're moving away from any notion of acoustic purity. I mostly play at bars, pubs, supper clubs, festivals, music in the park type gigs. Using a mic is often impractical and frustrating in venues like this. I’ve tried. So all my acoustic guitars are wired for live playing. Having gotten off the couch I'm mostly looking for clarity, note separation, balance across the strings, a semblance of acoustic tone, lack of feedback issues. Given the technology involved I just think of my acoustic-electrics as oddly-sized hollow-body electrics. I have used mics at a few more up-scale kinda gigs where the audience is focused on the music, you talk more about the songs, have wine and cheese after the show, etc - but can't say I enjoy those sessions any more than any old gig at a shot & a beer bar.
My favorite gigs these days are in a duo where we start out acoustic - well, acoustic-electric - and by the last set are playing just electric guitars. We’re discussing taking this to another level; my buddy also plays mandolin and I play banjo (set up with a humbucker) – which might be a cool starting point for further diversifying our genre/song mix.
I agree that any good idea should sound good on acoustic but I keep buying acoustic guitars and they just don't get played. The only exception is my 12-string Alvarez, which gets played in bursts every few months. But 6-string acoustics just don't do it for me. I'm no troubadour.
That said, I'm sure I'll keep trying to find one that speaks to me.
Dammit, I was watching that video earlier with a view to playing that song on acoustic, and it was still going on in my head when I saw your post!
A couple of thoughts. Firstly, I play acoustic about 90% of the time these days. I just couldn't imagine only playing one or the other. I used to play in an acoustic harmony duo. The other guy was a bassist normally so it fell to me to do the lead playing. Many of the songs were covers of ones that were originally recorded with electric guitars and I found that for solos it was usually the wrong approach to play them like the original. You don't get the sustain for one thing and higher notes just sounded weak. That meant I had to play in a completely different way.
The point above is that sure, both acoustic and electric guitars have six strings and a neck but they're different beasts. WHat's good on one won't necessarily be so on the other.
The other thing I'd say is, like others, I've never come across a Crafter that was any good. I'd rather have a basic-looking Yamaha. In fact, my duo partner had a cheap-as-chips Harley Benton he got from Thomann (albeit a fancy jumbo with binding and a Fishman pickup) and it was a brilliant guitar. Much better than any Crafter I'd ever encountered.
Arthritis in shoulders an elbows was making playing a Dreadnought size acoustic difficult so I sold mine and went totally solid body electric. Then saw ads for Parlour Guitars springing up everywhere, went and tried one and bought one. Rekindled my liking for acoustic playing. The smaller body and shorter scale length give a greater playing experience than I got with Dreadnought sizes.
Maybe it's already been said in this thread but the acoustic is just the other side of the same coin.
I tend to practice with acoustic because it really makes me work to get the inflection I want.
After that woodshedding, playing the same thing on electric is like being on vacation - plus all those other cool inflections that are possible.
Keith said something about the acoustic will teach you everything about the electric.
I think there's a lot of truth there.
I don't play professionally. Never have, and at this stage I never will. But I play at least 2 hours a day, every day if I can. When I'm home, my electric guitar is right there and ready to go. So I find it quite convenient and play it probably 90% of the time. But when I'm out in my car, going to the park, or just out for a drive to pass the time, (I'm very retired in case you're wondering) my acoustic is always with me. It's very handy when the time is right. I love my acoustic guitar. I like to sing country songs. An electric guitar, and an acoustic guitar, are two different animals. It's like if I had a pickup truck and a Corvette. One rocks, and one picks up drywall. But they're both necessary.
I'm in a similar situation with my big Maton EA80C. Although I don't suffer arthritis, the guitar is just too big to play comfortably sitting down. I absolutely love the sound of it, but the ergonomics mean I play less and less. I still want an acoustic though, and I've had a Taylor GS mini, but I don't really go for the shorter scale.
My first real guitar was a decent mahogany box, smaller than a dred, steel string and set up OK. I learned all three chords and played the living hell out of it. The whole time I lusted for a Fender Stratocaster. There was a long period of time that I could not "be with the one I loved" so I "loved the one I was with".
Later, I could finally play that Fender but I never lost the "need" (and I'm serious) for an acoustic that would absorb the stress and disappointment of the day...and mold it into a kind of semi-contentment that lets me sleep better.
Good or bad...I've got to have a wooden box to be happy...daily.
I regularly play in an acoustic trio, but it’s fair to say I’m not turned on by acoustics.
I bought a Taylor about a year ago for the band but only really play it at gigs occasionally. Lately I’ve been playing my Casino much more often. I just like amps and effects... and lots of sustain. I don’t have fun playing acoustic because I feel like I’m playing a banjo by comparison to my electric rig.
That said, I appreciate acoustics and there are rare occasions when I prefer to play them, but by in large I agree with the OP. I could live without them, and I could definitely live without Ed Sheeran lol!
Needed something new to listen to, so I burned a disc of old Moody Blues stuff. Man, they had some fantastic acoustic guitar playing. How can you not like acoustic?
The only piece of gear I'm currently lusting for.
14" head, modeled after my buddy's 20's Gibson.
I will get it and I will torture the neighbors this summer...
I feel the same way about douchy fedora wearing blooze daddys with their Strats, Teles, etc....
If you don't like them don't play them. Problem solved.
WESTIE, I got an Artist Guitars Parlour Guitar, they are worth a try, do a ninety day no questions asked return if you don’t like it. The stock strings are ok but I put some EB Earthwood blues an rock strings on it and it came alive.
I'll always have one and will always play it.
You cannot beat a good acoustic, fantastic sound and feel imo, no hate necessary!