Greenback or Blue Pup in Pro Junior IV?

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  1. Marshall Thinline

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    Has anyone put a Greenback or Blue Pup in a Pro Junior IV? If so, what is your opinion?

    I’m looking to change the Weber Signature S that I put in my Pro Junior IV. The Greenback and Weber Blue Pup are on my radar. The Signature was a great improvement over the Jensen P10R, but I’m looking for that English midrange chime.
     
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    If you go for the Blue Pup, be aware that the lower power version is much brighter than the higher power one (if they still offer both versions). The Weber Silver Pup is also well-liked in Fender amps, it is a bit less bright than the Blue.
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    Greenback works so well to 'soften' the mid and high frequencies, so it's great for marshalls and voxes. It would not be my first choice for a fender. But I guess PJs are less scooped than BF/SF, so you might be ok. I think I would go with what is more tried and true. Speakers aint cheap, and you can't return them. Just sayin'.
     
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    I would contact Weber for their thoughts. I'm sure they have encountered this PJ IV question before.
     
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    what are you trying to do by changing it? Greenback 10 has more low end, less bright, very inefficient (95 dB per their web site). I've had weber 12" ceramic blue dog and silver bell in a blues jr (well, two blues juniors) and both felt markedly more efficient (louder) than the stock speaker, though weber doesn't rate the efficiency of their speakers. Blue for sparkle, silver for midrange push -- I like the silver better but I have an AC15 for sparkle. For what you're looking for, ceramic silver pup would be my bet.
     
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    I called and sent Weber an email on Tuesday, I have yet to get a reply for them.
     
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    I’m looking for more lower-mid chime on the open D and G strings...maybe the Silver is the magic ticket...thanks for the suggestion.
     
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    FYI... I set my amps to the point where they start to break up (Think Keith Richards) and back the guitar volume back a pinch until it cleans up (Think Brian Setzer)...My main guitar is a Gretsch Hot Rod with TV Jones Classics...
     
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    After talking to Weber, today I ordered the 30 watt Alnico Blue Pup with light dope. I’m excited to hear it!
     
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    Good choice, although I would have considered the Silver too. The 30 watt Weber Blue is supposed to be closer in sound to the Celestion than the 15 watt Weber Blue. When they first came out with the 15 watt, people complained it was too bright, so they brought out the 30 watter.
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    After explaining the tone I was looking for, they suggested the Blue Pup. I hope they’re right.
     
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    Have the RC in a separate pine DIY cab. Love it. But for me, the PJ IV sounds better with the original PJ in. But I use RC with all my other amps, SCX2, VOX MV-50, Micro Terror & EHX Magnum 44. Great sound.
     
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    I vote Greenback. I don't have a PJ but my understanding it is "Marshally". Therefore, Greenback. A 10" Greenback is a great speaker.
     
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    I had a special edition gold tolex Blues Jr III that came with a greenback, it was a very good sounding combination IMHO.
     
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    I am using a Blue Pup with my VHT 12/20RT head in 12 wayy 6V6 mode. I honestly have no idea if it is the 15 or 30 as I got i used. Sounds good and sparkly though. I had to take the cover off though as there was a strange buzz.
     
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    The Blue Pup was delivered and sounds great! It definitely has the “chime” and clarity that I was looking for...I’ll give it a few days and post a full review. I’m really happy with the sound. It’s a huge improvement over th P10R that’s stock in the Pro Junior IV’s. Thanks for suggesting the Blue Pup, CJ, at Weber!
     
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