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George L blues

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Larry F, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. Larry F

    Larry F Doctor of Teleocity Vendor Member

    Nov 5, 2006
    Iowa City, IA
    I like the George L patch cable kits. However, I'm not as adept at making cables, even unsoldered ones such as these, as I used to be. I've made up a bunch of different lengths (and colors!), and tested them thoroughly. At some point in my 10 years of doing this, some patch cords have become a little hinky and are crackling and shorting.

    My hands are in pretty bad shape, increasingly, due to the pain from RA (and CIDP). It has been taken my a lot longer than usual to open packages and stuff. It doesn't feel like my hands are weak; rather, it feels like the packing material has been getting stronger. As far as the cables go, I think I need to screw the plug tightly onto the cable. I'm worried that my hands are lying to me about what is difficult and what is not.
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  2. Nickadermis

    Nickadermis Friend of Leo's

    Dec 18, 2016
    Camden Point, MO
    Sorry to hear this Larry !

    I know for darn sure that the new packaging material is designed to p*^ss me off !

    I find myself carrying a small pair of slip joint pliers around with me these days, as the neuropathy from the chemo has just started in earnest in my hands. I sure hope it doesn't get as bad as it is in my feet.
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  3. 1955

    1955 Poster Extraordinaire

    Apr 10, 2010
    Loved the sound of solder-less cables, incredible clarity, thin diameter of the cable, lightness, and being able to cut special lengths, but then had them fail gig after gig.

    I could never predict when. Some lasted for a long time, I think I still have two or 3 that are still going good.

    Got to the point of epoxying and electrical taping them. They would still fail.

    I tried everything, tried ones other people made, etc. I had a couple dozen connectors and a ton of wire, I built out several players custom boards including my own multiple live rigs.

    I saw them fail no matter who made them on boards that didn't even gig.

    To be fair, I move a lot onstage, I am very rough on gear. I break other cables, too, probably twice, three times a year with guitar leads just from live performance. Soldered cables hold up better with a lot of movement, but no cable is durable forever.

    I love the idea, I wanted them to work so bad. I spent a hours and hours and hours on those things. I died a few deaths onstage because of them and almost went mad chasing down my entire rig for the problem every time, that was partly the reason I finally completely gave up pedals and pedal boards altogether, although now i wouldn't mind a few pedals, just wouldn't use those solderless cables. Plus a pedalboard is another added complexity of possible headache if there is a problem onstage. Towards the end I was soldering my own Mogami and Nuetriks.

    Larry, with your situation, anything that simplifies the whole thing would help, so I would recommend you get pre-made soldered cable. Simplify whatever you can so you can enjoy guitar as much as possible despite the pain from RA and CIDP.
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2017
  4. TheGoodTexan

    TheGoodTexan Doctor of Teleocity

    Apr 28, 2003
    Nashville, TN
    I’ve been inside the George L distribution/warehouse/manufacturing plant/sales department/store front.

    It’s a small non-descript house down the street from my office. I bought out all of their remaining RCA tips a few years ago (about 100) and George’s wife game me a t-shirt... as long as I agreed not to disclose their exact location. Deal!
  5. Viejo

    Viejo Tele-Holic

    Feb 12, 2011
    Southern IL
    I quit George Ls when I plugged one of their speaker cables into a Marshall Cabinet I was repairing for a friend. I replaced the jack and circuit board on one of the cabs with multiple impedience and a switch on the cabinet jack. I wanted to check to see I had wired it correctly. I plugged in the George L speaker cable I had on my Marshall head and cabinet, attached the multimeter and got a reading of 187 ohms. I measured the the cable tip to tip and got 180 ohms. Grabbed a soldered cable and the cab ohmed out right for 8 and 16 ohms. I threw the George L cables away and never looked back
  6. nojazzhere

    nojazzhere Friend of Leo's

    Feb 3, 2017
    Foat Wuth, Texas
    I first bought George L's when Eric Johnson raved about them...but never heard the "greatness". Just expensive gimmicks. I always end up going back to the braided cloth insulated cable I got at a guitar show twenty years ago. I AM easy on cables.....don't step on them....yell at people who do.
  7. TheGoodTexan

    TheGoodTexan Doctor of Teleocity

    Apr 28, 2003
    Nashville, TN
    I use George L’s for my pedalboard. I do not use them between my guitar and pedalboard, or between my pedalboard and the amps. I find that the long runs between the pedalboard quickly become microphonic.
  8. Ringo

    Ringo Poster Extraordinaire

    Mar 16, 2003
    Memphis TN
    I like the George L straight plugs, way back they had some kind of deal where Bill Lawrence was endorsing them so they were sold as Lawrence cables.
    I used a couple of the brass plug Bill Lawrence cables for about 20 years, replaced the cable (insulation was cracked in some places) and still use them. No microphonics for me ever.

    I have tried the RA George L plugs but I have had issues with them, I just went to using some soldered Hosa patch cables, and thinking about trying some EBS flat patch cables where space is tight.
  9. SnidelyWhiplash

    SnidelyWhiplash Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 18, 2009
    I still have my old GL cable that i have had for about 15 yrs. Thin red & it works fine.
    Love it to pieces! :cool:
  10. 24 track

    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Nov 6, 2014
    kamloops bc
    I've never used them ,I will have to check it out, do you guys use a multimeter or a cable tester to test the cables ?

    thanks for the info, everyone.
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