Found 2 Black Widows

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  1. elmoscafeo

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    A year ago this month I was given a '78 Peavey Mace 320T. I really liked it, but someone removed the BWs a long time ago and replaced them with generic Peavey 12838G CTS speakers. I wasn't a fan of them and didn't have a problem patching the Mace in to a 412. However, I found a guy who was selling 2 BW 1201-8's for $40 each. I couldn't pass them up. I really like how the Mace sounds through the Widows.

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    I remember those speakers adding a ton of weight to the amp, and sounding kinda muddy.
    I've heard lots of good stuff about them though.
    I hope your experience is different than mine Elmo.
     
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    That looks like a heavy amp that can take heads off and blow pants across big rooms. I would like to try it.
     
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    Definitely a lot of weight. But not muddy at all. Clear and articulate.
     
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    It's a power house. SS preamp, 6 6L6's in the power amp. Tremolo and spring reverb. I've never weighed it but I was told that it weighs 116 lbs with Black Widows installed.
     
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    If that's the one I had, it had a boost switch that ticked everyone off for about a mile around.
    Thing was loud and heavy, not a bad amp though.
     
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    I have an old TNT130 that had a BW in it. Speaker finally bit the dust and replaced it with a EVH15b. What a difference! Best thing that ever happened to that amp. Unfortunately the speaker cost more than the amp but at least it saved it from the junk pile and I use it to this day.
     
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    I really like some of those Black Widows, depending on which size and model it is. I have a vintage pair of original Black Widow 1201-8 with the Spider Graphics magnets. These were the original Black Widow guitar speakers and had a paper dust cap on them. Very nice JBL/EV sound to them. They're in an original Peavey 2x12 guitar cab. I use this cab primarily for my '70 Twin Reverb Head. The newer 12" BW guitar speakers with the Super Structure magnet were designated by Peavey as 1203-4 and 1203-8. The newer 1201-4 and 1201-8 with super structure magnets were primarily sound reinforcement speakers, used in PA systems and monitors.
    I also really like the Black Widow 1501-4 speaker, designed primarily for pedal steel, but my Teles sound great with this mounted in my Custom Vibrasonic. Clean, barking headroom for days!
    I have several spare BW speakers on hand for future amps that might come along in need of premium speakers.
     
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    I think you missed a zero at the end of that estimate weight :D:lol:
    "Neutron Star" or "Oh Cr*p, call the chiropractor" are also legit weight descriptions.

    I've got a 79 Pv Artist combo - doesn't have the original BW speaker but something similar.
     
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    They don't call it "Mace" for nothing. Those are some punchy amps.
     
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    I wish I could have found the orignal series with the spider web on the back. These are working out for me nicely. In addition to the Mace, I've also patched them in to my '67 Bassman and Ampeg GVT5H. I really like these speakers. I've got a few more amps that I want to try them out on this weekend.
     
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    Congrats! Let the fun begin!

    Perhaps you are not, how you say, such an ugly fly, hmmm?:cool: :)
     
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    Made me smile!
     
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    Years ago I had a '79 Peavey Artist with a Black Widow. Solid state preamp, tube power. I used it for a while and traded it for one of their powered mixers. I got full price in trade and had that mixer for years! But I remember liking the speaker. I had a Twin Reverb in storage with JBL's and the Peavey was a smaller (somewhat) lighter alternative.
     
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    I like the Scorpion speakers a bit better, but your setup is truly the sound of latter day Lynyrd Skynyrd. Rossington still claims to use them to this day. I had a friend who used a Mace combo with Black Widow speakers and it was one loud sucker. The stage is full of them in this live clip from 77:

     
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    Picked up a 50w Bandit with a BW in it for less than a c-note. I was glad I had a Sheffield laying around waiting for a home for the weight and sound. Your Mace has the power to make those big speakers move, maybe the little Bandit was struggling?
     
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    a friend has a peavey renown with BW's in it he used a hamer phantom , sounded outstanding and kick a$$ , I've had a respect for them ever since
     
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    I have a 12 with the spider graphics. If someone wants to buy it. I would ship it for a c note. Lol.
     
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    I have 2 old 15" BWs in an even older Traynor bass cab. It can handle a total of 700 watts at 4 ohms, and may alter heartbeats at 20 paces.
     
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    Shipping for a C Note? How much for the speaker? :D
     
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