When I switched to lower efficiency speakers, I was able to get the edge of breakup tones I wanted at *near* bedroom levels. It’s all about getting that overdrive window into your living and playing situation. All else being up to spec, these are where it’s at for me. “But but you won’t get great cleans on the stage!”, they’ll tell you. Lies! You’re going to be mic’d 95% of the time. That means you’ll have the tone you want 5% of the time with too much amp. You’ll leave every show dejected and will blow more money on bandaids that may or may not wash out at the next show. With the tone OP is going after (and many of us, too), specing the ot/speakers for the proper scenario are game changers! I no longer need 2 pedals that had long standing use on my board: a Barber compressor and a Maxon 808. Well, in the off chance that I end up flying to a gig unable to bring my own amp, I’ll keep those tasty bandaids to apply to the venue’s backline. I read a recent comment here and can’t recall the thread title, but an older and more experienced cat slid in a powerful comment that flew under the radar for many (myself included). He was mentioning the importance the controls on the guitar itself had on achieving a particular tone. It made zero sense to me at the time because until then, I never had acccess to a touch-sensitive amp. Now that I do, I have a hard time going back to my old rig that was built to sound the same at all volume levels. With that tone, I had no toneful use for the volume pot on my guitar. It was simply being used as an on off control. There’s no going back! The volume and tone controls now paint in shades of grey instead of only black or white.