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Epiphone Dot vs Casino

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Tassytele, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Matthias

    Matthias Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 30, 2003
    UK
    After various mods, my Dot ended up with P90s in. If I was doing it all over again, I might be tempted toward the Casino!
     

  2. gwjensen

    gwjensen Friend of Leo's

    I have a Dot and would love to own a Casino as well. The Dot is a great player, but the pups are dark and middy. I can mitigate that somewhat with pedals and EQ, but a set of bucker sized P90s or really bright buckers would be a great upgrade. I've heard DiMarzio's Eric Johnsons work well in a Dot.
     

  3. h_berder

    h_berder TDPRI Member

    24
    Sep 29, 2006
    Istanbul
    Got an ordinary chinese casino.
    1) Mine has interestingly beatiful acoustic sounds. You can enjoy it even without an amp.
    2) You can play it as a rocker, jazz or blues player.
    3) Light like a baby bird's feather.
    cons; a) You'll lose some frets, b) I found only must changed part as bridge.
    Otherwise, lively instrument!
     

  4. Ed Boyd

    Ed Boyd Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 25, 2009
    Illinois
    I don't know what the price differences are but the Sheraton IIs I have played spanks both of these guitars.
     

  5. robt57

    robt57 Telefied Ad Free Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    Portland, OR

    The Historic Series MIJ Epiphones dust all of the other imported ones, and even dust some US Gibsons IMO. They are not going to be had for 500-700.00 though...
     

  6. Coach56

    Coach56 One of the Boys

    Age:
    61
    Aug 16, 2013
    Oak Park, IL
    Do you know what happens when a Dot and a Casino have babies?

    That's right the Riviera P93 Custom.

    I have both the Dot and the Riv and generally will reach for the Dot or a Fender. Since I am a really big Beatles and Tom Petty fan I REALLY wanted to love the Riv, but I just can never get used to it or get the sound where I want it. Not quite a Casino, certainly not a 'bucker.

    If you want the Casino sound go for the Casino, don't mess with P90s in a Dot configuration ( unless THAT is the sound you are going for ).

    -Harry
     

  7. J. Hayes

    J. Hayes Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    77
    May 18, 2005
    Virginia Beach, Va.
    I have...........

    A Dot Studio, a Riviera P-93, a Casino, a Sheraton II and a reissue '62 Sheraton with the small humbuckers....... They're all great guitars but my choice(s) for gigging are either of the Sheratons. Both of 'em have coil taps and phase switches as well as Bigsby Palm Pedals (see pix).... I gig with my Casino on occasion when I have to play standing up as it's pretty light and easy on the shoulder. The P-93 has the sustain block and doesn't feed back hardly at all. In my Casino I took some foam material and shoved it into the F-holes and then put some old black sock material and covered that up so it'd look better and the feedback has been virtually eliminated.... As far as replacing humbuckers with P-90s, I have a gold Ibanez Artcore full size archtop hollow body that I replaced the pups with a pair of Duncan "Phat Cats" which are like a P-90 but they fit right into the normal HB slot. They have the chrome covers but the row of adjustment screws go right down the middle of the pickup instead of on one side..........JH in Va.
     

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  8. robt57

    robt57 Telefied Ad Free Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    Portland, OR
    Yeah, the weight point! The Casino is way light compared to a center block axe of this body size. The MIJ Leno/Revo was 6.5 lb. It is still is, just at someone else's place ;)
     

  9. Fernandomania

    Fernandomania Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 28, 2012
    Sunny SoCal
    I vote for the Casino as well. But I'd take an ES-335 over both of them.
     

  10. Flaneur

    Flaneur Friend of Leo's

    May 24, 2010
    Scotland
    Played a bunch of Casinos in a shop recently. Nearly shelled for a lovely Chinese one- very resonant, with a fatter neck than the slightly nicer looking Korean one I compared it with. Couldn't justify the cost, on the day.....and I'd have to sort out the feedback, in some way.
    No real sound comparison with a 335 type. If you need the Hollowbody/P90 tone, you need it.
     

  11. LeftyAl

    LeftyAl Friend of Leo's

    Mar 24, 2010
    Fl.
    I'd go with the casino. I'd need to play it first of course.The neck is what makes or break it for me.Dots are much less money.Not all Dots have dots though,why?
     

  12. robt57

    robt57 Telefied Ad Free Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    Portland, OR

    Cheaper version like the Studio Dots?
     

  13. doctor_capleson

    doctor_capleson Tele-Meister

    Age:
    30
    329
    Feb 4, 2014
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    In my university jazz band, I used my own Epi 335 Dot, and a Casino that belonged to a friend. The Casino felt better to play, but feedback was an issue. Seeing as I needed the darker tone more and was playing right in front of a Twin Reverb, I opted for my Dot more often. I borrowed the casino for a few cover band gigs at parties though, and I loved it.

    I'd like to hear more about replacing pickups in the dot, as that is exactly what I intend to do. I'm thinking Gibson '57, P90, or P94.

    Thoughts, input, experience?
     

  14. Obsessed

    Obsessed Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Nov 21, 2012
    Montana
    I just did the whole 50s wiring, audio taper pots, Switchcraft switch and jack, and Orangedrop caps to my Epi Sheraton II. My original intention was to replace the humbuckers and decided to do both (based on input here on TDPRI), but the pups I bought on ebay were not what was advertised (had to send them back), but went ahead with the wiring project anyway. Way bigger improvement than I could have possibly imagined! I used external shielded single lead 22 gauge wire for the whole thing (ebayer 5' for $4.00). Can't get feedback even if I try. For less than $50, it transformed my semi hollow into a serious sounding machine. I'm still looking for an Alnico II/low output PAF like set of pups to put in, but I can now go ahead and get some serious recording done with the original humbuckers. For very little more you could put in single taps and get 4 wire pups for that P90ish family of tone. I have single taps on my other humbucker guitar and they really add a lot more tones, if that is what you are looking for.

    Good luck!
     

  15. doctor_capleson

    doctor_capleson Tele-Meister

    Age:
    30
    329
    Feb 4, 2014
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    The 50's wiring and coil taps are changes that would almost make me leave the stock pups in, or at least delay swapping those out. How hard is it to do the wiring on these?
     

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