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--- EPIC Thread --- Best Multi-Channel Classic Rock Amp? Top Selections Inside! --- POLL ---

Discussion in 'Glowing Bottle Tube Amp Forum' started by Encapsulation, Nov 23, 2016.

What is the best multi-channel classic rock amp?

  1. Fargen Dual British Classic II

    1 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Redplate Magica

    1 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Bogner Shiva

    1 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Bogner XTC

    1 vote(s)
    25.0%
  5. Bogner Goldfinger

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Landry LS100G3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 3rd Power Dream Weaver

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. PWE Event Horizon 3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. robrob

    robrob Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Dec 29, 2012
    United States
    The 5F6A and therefore the JTM45, JTM50 and Plexi start to overdrive the power tubes with 25% of the volume pot sweep, well before the preamp so don't assume early breakup is preamp distortion.
     
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  2. tonejam

    tonejam Tele-Meister

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    Dec 25, 2010
    brisbane
    Since you like the 59 Bassman clone, start looking for a 2nd hand Fender Prosonic. Basically a very (3 rectifier settings) versatile 59 Bassman with an unlimited overdrive channel.
     
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  3. Newbcaster

    Newbcaster Tele-Meister

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    Gilbert
    why isnt there a single marshall in this poll? flawed...
     

  4. Newbcaster

    Newbcaster Tele-Meister

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    May 10, 2015
    Gilbert
    bogner pre into fryette VHT

    Sickest tones Id heard in a long while.

    I've been listening to a lot of flubby, saggy slide guitar amps and this was a wonderful reminder of why i love metal
     
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  5. ScottJPatrick

    ScottJPatrick Tele-Afflicted

    May 12, 2011
    Stirling, Scotland.
    You really need to get out and play through some Mesa Boogies, Mark series, Nomad series, TSA all do what you need in a variety of output/speaker options.
     

  6. PastorJay

    PastorJay Tele-Holic

    764
    Apr 12, 2014
    California
    The amps I use have already been mentioned; the Egnater Tweaker 40 and the Mesa TA-15. Each have two channels. I use the Egnater for Fender and 60s era Marshall sounds, although it will also do Vox and more modern Marshall sounds. I use the Mesa for Vox and more modern Marshall tones.

    Mesa makes several amps that I think would do it for you. Which one is right for you would be trial and error. I think the Mesa Roadster might be perfect for you; it has 4 channels you can switch between.

    Good luck.
     
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  7. goonie

    goonie Friend of Leo's

    Dec 20, 2011
    Australia

  8. goonie

    goonie Friend of Leo's

    Dec 20, 2011
    Australia
    Nah the preamp distortion in my Marshall sounds better than any pedal.
     

  9. Il Duce

    Il Duce Tele-Holic

    Age:
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    594
    Nov 11, 2013
    NYC
    I highly recommend checking out a VHT/Fryette 50CL or 100CL! Simply put they're amazing! Everything from clean to mean!
     

  10. Encapsulation

    Encapsulation TDPRI Member

    Age:
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    Nov 23, 2016
    USA
    I bought and returned the Bogner XTC 101b, sounded great but too large and heavy.

    I tried the mesa mark V 25 and 35, too high gain oriented for me(played them for 4 hours)

    Bogner Atma is arriving tuesday and I'm hopeful it won't sound too small or lack lows.

    If it does, I'm considering a redplate magica.

    I also have my eye on the Avatar 18w head, or building a clone of the 18w marshall.

    I'm worried that won't be versatile enough, though.

    Thanks for all of the replies so far.
     

  11. Encapsulation

    Encapsulation TDPRI Member

    Age:
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    5
    Nov 23, 2016
    USA
    Tried the Atma.

    Great cleans but lacking low end and fizzy//harsh OD. It may have been the cab I tried.

    I purchased and returned XTC a second time, too heavy....amazing sounds though.

    I'm considering trying a Redplate Magica next.

    Does anyone have experience with one of these? Are they a portable tone machine?

    Thanks again.
     

  12. Commodore 64

    Commodore 64 Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    Mar 1, 2010
    Kent, OH
    Declaring your thread as Epic is kinda like talking about yourself in the third person.

    That said, I'm on my way to grab one of my amps that's been modded by a friend. I build the basic amp, he tweaks the pre's. He's added an EF86 that can be swapped in and out of the signal with the basic triodes in the pre. It's 5e3 inspired, 12ax7 pre, cathodyne PI (with merlin's suggested values for awesomeness), cathode biased 6V6 amp with a pre-PI MV and VVR, baxandall tonestack.

    I'm hoping it can do just about anything.
     
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  13. felis

    felis Tele-Holic

    993
    Sep 4, 2011
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Missed the Fryette Memphis. ;)
     

  14. horseman308

    horseman308 Tele-Meister

    362
    May 7, 2016
    US
    Just to point out, you said initially that weight/portability is secondary to sound, but then later discounted the Bogner due to weight? Did your feelings change on the subject? Cause it sounded like you l Iiked it's sound pretty well.

    At the end of the day, I kinda think you're looking for something that might not exist. One amp that will faithfully reproduce a huge range of sounds that were originally made by ... a huge range of amps ... many with different designs and modifications and often with pedals ... and you don't want pedals? ("One amp to rule them all", to paraphrase.) Just seems unrealistic. Possibly fantasy. Case in point, just read the appendix of Joe Perry's recent autobiography and Google his rig rundown from Premier Guitar. He goes through his back line of amps and effects in some detail at many stages of his career. It varied hugely.

    Now, searching for that "perfect" sound you hear in your head, sounds great no matter which artist you're covering, and still sounds like "you" at the end of the day? That's a different question, I think. Really, I'm just saying to take a step back, re-examine your goal.
     
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  15. Dismalhead

    Dismalhead Poster Extraordinaire

    Age:
    54
    Feb 16, 2014
    Auburn, California
    Those amps are above my paygrade. In fact, I've only heard of Fargen and Bogner.

    I had a Marshall JCM900 for a long time that I loved the tones on. Great metal thunder. Mesa's always been my dream amp. I've got a Blackstar right now that I'm very happy with, pretty much a smaller version of my JCM900 with tighter distortion.
     

  16. bparnell57

    bparnell57 Poster Extraordinaire

    Feb 10, 2014
    Philadelphia, PA
    Fender Prosonic. Done deal. Can mimic almost any fender amp ever made, on the clean channel, which does get dirty too, and can then go over the top with any sort of Marshall, Vox, or fender (boogie) tone imagineable. You may need a drive pedal to get straight up insane high gain metal, but that's about it.
     
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  17. bparnell57

    bparnell57 Poster Extraordinaire

    Feb 10, 2014
    Philadelphia, PA
    Oh, Joe Perry used one in the 90's BTW. The only 100 watt Prosonic ever made.
     

  18. Spankyboy0710

    Spankyboy0710 TDPRI Member

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    May 15, 2015
    Murfreesboro, TN
    I recommend the Magica or the Shiva for what you're looking for, but I would not rule out pedals. I was against them for so long.
     
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  19. unixfish

    unixfish Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free + Supporter

    Apr 20, 2013
    Northeast Ohio, USA
    Fender cleans, and nice overdrive from the amp.

    Have you tried the Fender Super-Sonic 22? This - in theory - sounds like what you are looking for.
     

  20. Anode100

    Anode100 Friend of Leo's

    May 9, 2014
    Behind my beard.
    Yup - played one the other week - was very impressed.
     

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